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Date Posted:10/10/2018 12:24:50Copy HTML

Today we had some bad news -- Yesterday was probably the last day of high-70's to low 80's weather until late March or April.  Sometimes we get a day or two here or there over winter, but as the year winds down and the new year starts the probability of even getting low 70's or even high 60's weather -- weather suitable for thonging -- get less and less.

We are not all made of money and can not take off to a warm and sunny place where we can get away from the cold and hopefully get some thonging time in too.  So short of moving, what can we do to cope with Winter?  I am not a Winter person, and while I do like a fire in the fireplace, and some of the early Winter Holidays like Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New Years, I need to find local things and activities to help me through what I think is the worst part of the year.

Winter sports, like Skiing, Snow Boarding, Winter hikes and camping, ice fishing, etc.  are either not of interest or are only a very short term diversion.  Staying at home makes me claustraphobic.  Watching endless TV or going on shopping trips are boring at best.  Sure, I do both, but TV is only a short-term diversion (even with Movie channels) and shopping is more of a necessity than a pleasure.  Going on trips, also does not work since short trips usually don't go far enough away to get away from the weather.  Longer trips are complicated by work schedules and costs of travel for motels, gas, meals, etc.  Same goes for restaurants.  Fast food is yucky and I get tired of it quickly.  Fancy restaurants are expensive and sometimes do not have much better food.

Visitors and going to other peoples houses also tends to be only a short-term distraction.

As a child, I remember the excitement of the first snow and going sleding or ice skating.  Holidays were more exciting due to vacations from school.  As I grew and my interests changed, other things made the winter season more memorable -- mostly going places and doing things with friends.  Now my friends are mostly parents and don't have "wild" parties.  They have sick kids and school issues and their children are happy to visit friends a few blocks away and hate to go on trips when they can't be with their friends.  Seeing my friends and their families is nice, but not the same.  Things are more predictable and Winter activities seem to be slipping into a rut which is deeper and deeper each year.  I like where I am living.  I have a nice house.  I have three great male friends who I share my place with -- friends who keep me satisfied sexually.  But even that is sort of a short-term thing, since we mess around all Summer so doing it in the Winter is not a seasonal thing.

I do things with them in Winter, but they seem to like the weather and appreciate the winter activities more than I do.  They go ice fishing and have a little house they can use, but the ice has to be thick enough so this is not all that possible.  When they do go ice fishing, it is so boring to me -- and cold and gloomy.  If they get the heat up where I am not cold, the ice starts to melt and it get humid in the tiny house.  It is sort of like camping, something I do not care a bit for.  They love going to a ski resort but this is two-hours away and only has short runs, and skiing is physically challenging to me.  I almost always fall more than I stay standing.  Hanging around the "lodge" is not much fun for me either.  It is like some type of pick-up bar with booze messing up otherwise stable men's thoughts.  One ski place about four hours away has a hot-tub at the lodge, and they do permit thongs, but it is small and you are still bothered by the men who think if you are not skiing that you must need a new guy to keep you happy.  The boys also get into hunting, show boarding, ice skating, winter hikes -- sometimes needing snow shoes, etc., but the layers and layers of cloths I must wear to keep warm are uncomfortable to my body which prefers to wear nothing at all.  Winter sports like Football (that ends half-way through the Winter any way.) and hockey are of little interest to a person who is not a sports jock.  I have tried to enjoy these sports but like most sports (except auto racing) they have little appeal, even when my friends or men go with me.

I have tried other things -- Volunteering for charity, getting involved in clubs, community theater, and other things.  These things fill a bit of my time, but I never could get into them like others do.  One thing, the people in these clubs are often old f*rts who want to run things their way.  I thought I would like working at a dog rescue place, but was kept on the "clean up cage" detail for months, and hac very little one-on-one wiht the dogs.  It also broke my heart to see some dogs come in hurt or abused, and seeing others being sent away with people who would never appreciate them.  It was a "no kill" shelter, but even then, sometimes dogs got or were too sick or injured when they came in and had to be put down.

Spending several evenings a week at community theater only to wind up with the job of moving props or opening the curtains is not that fullfilling.  Books and reading don't seem to help much either -- I like reading, but like it better, sitting out in warmer weather (even the cooler fall or spring weather) where I can enjoy the sun, even if not in skimpy cloths.  I have tried to create a reading area at home, but have not had much success.Those special lights they have that simulate sunlight and are supposed to help you get by when the sun is not out as much don't help much either.  I go to the gym in winter, but indoor swimming in water that seems to be 100% chlorine is not pleasant and the exercise machine and track are things I do all year around -- not as a Winter activity to break up my day.  My parents live next door, and have a farm and I still do many of the chores when I can for them, but even this is something that does not appeal to me during Winter.  Even riding a horse we are boarding for a friend does not interest me that much in winter.

I do enjoy travel, even local travel, seeing museums, etc., but not when the trip is on icy roads or accompanied by heavy snow and slush.  A few day trips to such places have been memorable and happy times for me, but many such trips act only as a diversion from my otherwise dull and unhappy Winter life. I get some comfort from planning things to do next summer, but that often causes me to get sad when I think about having to wait months and months before I can do them, and then only if my work and budget permit.

Occationally I get lucky and get to go on business trips to places where it it warmer, but these are very irradic and I don't get to go on trips like sales conventions where I can have business friends who are there year after year to hang out with.

This year I will have a very tight budget and must keep spending for entertainment and trips to a minimum.  My parents also are getting to the age when they sometimes need help, so going places with all my male companions is not practicable since at least one has to stay behind to help Mom and Dad when they need it.  So my challenge is what can I do locally (Ohio/Indiana/Kentucky) that is not expensive, requires only short trips if any, and might help me out.  Toledo, Fort Wayne, Dayton, Columbus, and Indianapolis and even Detroit are within a two to three hour window, Windsor and other points in Canada are hard to get back from, thanks to tighter overseas travel requirements and security especially on the return trip.  Cleveland, CIncinatti, Lousiville, and other places as a possible one-night trip.  Alternately, Chicago or St. Louis or Knoxsville or even Nashville TN are possible 2-night trips, but this would push my budget to it's limits and might eliminate the chances to do other, more local things.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated since my depression is kicking in with temperatures only in 50's and lower 60's predicted for the next few weeks.  The loss of sunlight both in the moring and evening also bothers me, but the fainter sun in Winter is also depressing when I go outside.  Still faint sunshine is better than no sunshine, and I try to get out as much as I can as long as it is not too cold or too rainy (cold rain is worse for me than snow).  Yes, I could move, but really don't want to since I want to be near my parents, my life-long friends, and have a new house and a good job.  Last year, I went to a shrink that did little good.  The phsyciatrist prescribed medications that made me feel unreal and while I didn't mind Winter that much, I also didn't seem to care about much of anything else either.  The phycologist he sent me to (a lady) said I was sick for wanting to go naked in the summer and some sort of sexually un-satisifed person.  When I changed to a new therapist, he was more interested in me telling him stories about nude beach use, stories about having three lovers I live with, and wanting to see pictures of my summer vacations that often showed me topfree and in thongs, so I don't think this is a good route for me either.  


Tangapreta #1

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Date Posted:10/10/2018 02:15:49Copy HTML

Mary You can try hypnotherapy for depression. It is a 100% natural therapy and has shown good results with depression. Look for a good trained hypnotherapist near you.
J_R_365 #2

Re:Coping with Winter and Cold Weather Depression -- Any Ideas?

Date Posted:10/10/2018 02:48:42Copy HTML

I never had a problem with Seasonal Affective Disorder until a few of years ago, when we had two brutal winters in a row here in Chicago, one with lots of snow, and the next where there was no relief from the cold. Since then, even a relatively mild winter can get me down. My own coping mechanism is to look at pictures of tropical beaches on the Internet. That only give temporary relief, though.

If you search for Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD - what an appropriate acronym), you can find lots of information about it. There are four main treatments:

    Light therapy
    Vitamin D

This list is from the National Institute of Mental Health, NIMH Seasonal Affective Disorder, which has a description of these treatmentsin some detail.

JM_Runs #3

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Date Posted:10/10/2018 03:19:51Copy HTML

I have a friend from up North who took up two pursuits that fill her winter days:

The first was exercise, the gym and running. She told me she only really started to enjoy it when she took courses so she could teach others. Learning how the body worked and could be improved was interesting, then she got to try out her skills on herself and others. Although not a very outgoing or social person she quickly came to like the respect and gratitude from the people she coached.  Although she never really liked running out doors in the winter, had poor circulation and her hands got very cold.

The second was sewing with sewing machines. I thought this a little strange for her, but she assured me she liked being a skilled and competent operator, without having a boss or deadlines. She started off mostly doing stuff for herself, like patches on jeans and summer cloths, but then expanded into doing jobs for others, and even making things to sell online. It gave her flexibility to do it whenever she wanted, at any time of day, without leaving her home and having to deal with traffic or weather. 

I think what attracted her most was it involved doing stuff with her hands, while totally involving her brain in thinking the process through. Stuff like working out what side to sew on, what edge to use and how the piece would assemble. It was also something other people in her life could not do - so they did not try to tell her how to do it.  Something where she was totally in control of everything, from the supplies to finished item. 

When she first started sewing she joined a local sewing club, but found even the young people way more advanced. She made a friend who helped her with the basics. Found she could do stuff on her basic machine, just a little slower.  Her sewing friend later lent her a spare serger which helped a lot.

tobias5711 #4

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When I have SAD in the winter, I do something different. I apply suntan lotion on my face. The smell reminds me of summer and seems to help.
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Martylouie #7

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It might be a bit of an initially high cost, but have you considered building a solarium addition to your house, sort of like a cross between a sun room and a greenhouse? You would get more natural sun and could even lay out. If done right it could even help lower your heating bills by adding passive solar. On a farm, it might even be deductible if you used it to give some plants a head start
gsj #8

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Date Posted:10/12/2018 10:43:38Copy HTML

 I find regular weekly swims at the local leisure centre pool, giving an opportunity to be nearly naked (given the minimal string suit I wear) helps considerably. Hotel pools,  provide an opportunity to be even briefer attired.

ithongit #9

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Date Posted:10/13/2018 04:04:47Copy HTML

I can think of four basic things that can make winter less pleasurable and there might be more. Figuring out which one or ones are most troublesome might help you avoid those things, or taking positive steps to offset their effects. These are: Lack of sunlight Cold temperatures Different activities that you don't like Holiday overload. Lack of sunlight is probably a biggy for a lot of people. Some businesses seem to be set up to cause you to go in when it is dark and go home when it is dark too. Many places have not windows or heavily tinted windows which provide little relief. Change your schedule if possible so you have more time to see the sun. Second of Third shift may not be where you want to be, but you might be able to spend hours in what little sun you get. Special lights or even just more lights can also help. A candle lit dinner by a fireplace might be romantic, or watching TV with the room lights out might seem to make sense, but you are depriving yourself of light. If there is any way you can get outside on a sunny day, take advantage if you can. Cold temperatures there is little you can do about. This is especially true if you work in a job where they keep the temperature cool or have a car with a bad heater. At the same time, turning heat way up when you can will only make the transition from being in a warm place to a cool place that much harder to take without getting cold. One of the best things is exercise. Walking just a block or two in the cool or cold temperatures can actually make many people feel better. Just like the sunshine issue, take advantage of warmer winter weather when you can. Being outside when it is 45 or even 55 might be a lot colder than you normally would like to be in the summer, but will help you appreciate the nicer days when they come along. Different activities you don't like -- this is something that is hard to figure out, but try to find new winter-only activities or hobbies you can take on. Remodeling or inside painting, art classes, setting up a movie-night with friends or family, go restaurant exploring one day a week. If you don't like football, you still might like to hang around at a big tailgate party. Some communities have historic house and building tours. Nearby we can go have dinner in a log cabin. If there are agencies you have always wanted to volunteer for, doing this in the winter might become a positive thing. One person I knew collects jig-saw puzzles from friends and others and then distributed them to hospitals and similar places. If you have a dog, consider dog training or advanced dog training classes which help the bond with your animal but also is something you might not find time to do in a busy summer. Holiday Overload -- This is a major issue for many people. There is a lot of stress involved in getting presents, making food, cleaning the house for guests, etc. But then after Christmas or some other early to mid winter event, everything stops. Why not have a family or family and close-friends Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Years or whatever. and then plan a few party-get togethers with those people you would have invited to a Christmas party or whatever to these instead. Set these up for January and February, or maybe even March. This will keep you busy, but without everything hitting at once. Many people who attend will also like not having to squeeze your event into an otherwise crowded holiday schedule. The other holiday thing that upsets some people is New Years. I don't really know what to say if you decide to spend this time thinking of all the things that didn't go your way in the last year, or things about problems that you see in the year ahead. All I can say is very few people do everything they want each year, and almost anyone will think of issues in the short-term future that can get them down. Other than for accounting reasons, New Year's day is just another day -- except most people get the day off.
Mary0826 #10

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Date Posted:10/28/2018 04:04:49Copy HTML

I have been thinking about my winter depression issues. I ran down ITHONGIT's list and think I am suffering from 1. Lack of Sun and 2. Lack of heat the most. There are a few activities I do like in winter, but very few. I realize that I must look for more things to try like the Tailgate Parties (I am not into football, although I have tried to be for years.) Winter overload is about the least of an issue for me. I still go over to my parents house for all the traditional meals and celebrations. However, it seems that even this is becoming more and more upsetting to me, mostly because each year my employer clamps down more and more on keeping their employees from sneaking out early on Christmas Eve (yes they work on Christmas Eve) and getting people back on January 2. They go so far now that if you don't work a full day each of these days, you don't get any holiday week pay! You can't even arrange for taking a vacation at this time. I live only a few miles from work, and my family is close, but many of my fellow workers either have to drive all night on Christmas Eve (there are no plane tickets), or celebrate Christmas on the wrong day, or be forced to stay locally even though they would prefer not to. For many years, starting when I was in college, my family would take in some students and later co-workers who could not get home for the holidays, and while I was always happy to do this, many of these people seemed to be upset about the whole arrangement. Maybe someday I can get in a winter vacation to Southern California, or some other place that is warmer, like Florida. I don't feel comfortable leaving the country since my parents were born overseas. I have contacted therapists in the area, and none can even see me until late February or even into April, when the days will be mostly milder and the sun out more of the time, so at least this year, I will need to do some self-help. I think what really hit me hard was the late, late summer-like weather we had here. All summer was hot, and there were lots of clear days and stretches with no rain. Between June and October, we had only a few days it was below 70, and much of the summer was in the 80's and 90's. This summer season kemp going day in and day out, week in and week out until early October, when one day it was in the 80's (after a week of high 70s through high 80s and even a few 90s) then the next day, the highs were only in the 50s. Somehow we missed early fall. Even the trees are mixed up. Many are still covered at the end of Octobre with green leaves, even though normally we have traditional fall colors. We have not even had a day much about 60 since then. Normal temperatures are some days into the low and mid 60's day in and day out. I think this sudden change has messed up my emotions this year. I remember several warm winters, the last a few years ago. We had temperatures near 70 on Christmas. This year, the early predictions (which hopefully are wrong) say it will be warmer than normal, but only by a few degrees. Lack of sunlight is another thing that always upsets me. Many days are just gloomy, and even sunny days start late and end early. Most days I must go into work or come home in virtual darkness. My employer will not let me switch to an over-night shift that would at least make me feel a bit better since I could at least enjoy what little sun we have better. For years we went to the Y for swimming, and they had no issues with Brad wearing just a thong. Scott and Frank have come along, and I think having three guys hanging around in thongs was too much for them since they now have a rule that thongs on men are not permitted. There is a cheaper motel about 50 miles away with a nice pool that is quite comfortable with both men and women who want to wear minimal swimwear, but this is not any fun going to when you have to spend an hour getting there in ideal weather, and a lot longer if the roads are sllick or snowy.
Martylouie #11

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I don’t have any solutions to your S.A.D. symptoms, but if your employer truly acts this way during the holidays for no valid operational reasons, then he or she will get low morale, terrible productivity and terrible employee retention. It is just bad management to that to employees. The only places where that kind of management might make sense to me is in health care or a first responder situation. But even those type of jobs usually offer some flexibility for shift swapping and other coverage. For example, when I worked in radio, I often took the Christmas Eve and Christmas Day shifts for my coworkers. ( I’m Jewish). Do not feel bad for me,as this was in the days when you could trust your listeners. It was a country station and some of our fans could COOK!! I didn’t ask or even mention it on air, but I was well fed all day. I did thank the folks just before sign off.
Thongzo #12

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Date Posted:10/29/2018 02:13:41Copy HTML

I live in Minnesota so I hear you loud and clear. I find 15 minutes in a tanning bed a couple of times a week can do wonders. The bright light and vitamin D really helps my mood. (No one jump on me about tanning beds, please... just trying to help...)
gw32 #13

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Mary0826: I'm so sorry that you are struggling like this. I totally get it. I think @thongzo has a good suggestion. I used to live in Connecticut and Rhode Island and I love the heat and sun but the summer is teasingly short and unpredictable, whereas the winter is long and oh so predictable (in general). Tanning really helped me to feel a little better and less grumpy about the long, cold, dark winter. Made the ultimate solution happen last year by moving to east central Florida. It has cooled off a little around here, by now, but its still going to hit 80 most days this week. Phew!
pkthong #14

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@Mary: Sorry to hear about your plight. I have asked myself if I could live somewhere cold like Minnesota or gloomy like Seattle. I just couldn’t do it for the reasons you mentioned. Is it possible to make a 3 day trip to PHX or LAS once or twice during winter? It would give you something to look forward to and with airb/b etc. Possibly not too costly. Sending warmth and sunshine your way!
gsj #15

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Donned  a well worn J Snyder Kini to lap pool this morning on the basis of what the hell. Lots of people around, did my usual 20 lengths but no obvious notice taken despite close proximity.

Mary0826 #16

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Date Posted:11/06/2018 04:03:27Copy HTML

First I want to thank everyone for your input on my SAD (I didn't even know there was a name for it!) I have been taking some of the suggestions and I think they are helping me some. First, I am going out and trying to enjoy the sunny days when I can. It is a good time to go out with the dog or hike in the woods. Unfortunately, with the rain and late summer, this is not the best year for fall colors, but there still have been some pretty nice displays here and there. Second, I am trying to go swimming at least twice a week. At least once a week, I go to the "Y" and while I can't officially wear a thong, I have found some pretty extreme cheeky swimsuits that barely cover my buns when the suit is on "right" and easily slip into my ass crack even when I move around just a little. So far, nobody has complained, but I do straighten things out a few times on each visit so it looks like my bun exposure is accidental. The top of suit is about as small as I think I can get away with, but I purchased several tops of various coverage. Once people get used to the most modest matching top I have, I plan to move on to a somewhat smaller top. I am also thinking about trying a real thong bottom as time goes on. The only issue is that I could be kicked out of the "Y" pool for up to 30 days, something that I really wouldn't want to do, unless I have some other swimming place lined up, or unless it is at the end of the winter season. The other place I have been swimming are at motels. There are two we know about where we can thong. When I go, I take along one or more of my male friends, who also thong. Brad just loves to skinny dip -- mostly to let the other women check him our -- and one of the motels lets him do this. When you have a guy skinny dipping or several in sometimes very skimpy thongs and G-strings, the people who see me don't seem to care too much if I swim topfree. Going topfree, and wearing a thong at the motels, or wearing an almost thong at the "Y" are a positive link for me to the summer. The only thing I don't like is that the "Y" pool is about 100% chlorine, but so far, the swimsuit and tops I wear there have not been damaged. One more thing that helps -- I keep the fire burning hot on cold evenings. We have plenty of wood, and this makes the house a lot more comfortable. About 9:00 I stop putting logs in and let it gradually burn down. This lets the house burn down gradually and I am still warm when I go to bed. A man or two next to me keeps me warm at night. I go to work the next morning and they have plenty of heat, and my car heater works good, so I don't need heat again until I get home. My furnace has a timer so the house is (abnormally) warm when I get home. We do keep the hot-tub out back on all winter, and it is a nice warm break too if I get cold. One of the highlights of the last couple of weeks was going over to one of my supervisor's house to take care of their cat. He has a Japanese soaking bath in the basement and Frank and I couldn't resist the urge to take our cloths off and use it. Last weekend I went to my first tail gate party at Ohio State in Columbus. We didn't go to the game, only hung out in the parking lot. This was a lot of fun, and everyone seemed to be having a good time. Then about half the way home, Frank and Scott started getting sick and throwing up. I think Brad was pretty close to getting sick too. I think they ate something that had gone bad. There was this young lady and the guys kept talking about her incredible breasts, and I was getting so jealous, and then I find out the breasts were some chicken dish. The guys kept going back over and over again and all consumed huge quantities and I think that made them sick. I guess a guy who is only interested in a ladies incredible breasts deserved to get a little sick. Mary
tbck1000 #17

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When I lived in a colder climate, I went through a similar withdrawal. I love being outdoors exercising or just around the water in a thong or shorts. I found a reasonably priced exercise facility with an indoor pool, steam and sauna rooms, workout equipment, etc.  I was able to keep active while staying out of the cold, and spent plenty of time wearing thong or bikini swim suits. It definitely helped me get through the cold depressing winter.

ithongit #18

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My dad (who is "pulling 60" as he puts it) has told me about a shopping-center bar/nightclub type place in the Huber Heights part of Dayton. It was in operation in the 1970's and maybe before or after but has since been closed. It was called the Puki-Puki lounge. They had a small swimming pool -- not much more that a big hot tub -- and dance music and alchoholic drinks. There was no TV's but they played a variety of music, mostly top 40's but also some progressive rock (FM rock of the day) and some classics from the 50s ane even earlier. They showed some movies on a screen at one end of the place. Most of the movies could be seen on TV, but nobody complained. Some weeks they had themes, usually tied to the movies they showed like Beach Movies, Hippie/counter culture movies, horror films, surfing, etc. Upper high school kids got in with fake ID's because they didn't check them too good and there were no pictures on drivers licenses back then. They did have a couple of teen nights a week, one on Sunday when the bar had to be closed because of the local laws when only soft drinks were offered. The other he thinks was Thursday, when people ran out of money, and were waiting for their next pay check. They had a beach-type menu of things you might get at a beach-side stand in a resort area. They had a Polynesisan atmosphere with real bambo trees, flowers, and tropical birds -- mostly parrots and mcaws, a few lizards, and lots of fish tanks. Much of the "floor" was sand, and they usually had volley ball and other beach games that could be played including "Yard Darts". In any event, they kept the heat turned up and encouraged people to wear swimwear. Shirts were optional on men. Most of the patrons spent at least some of the time in the "pool" that they put salt in to make it more ocean like. They did have some very tame even for the time bikini contests and also contests for the men, often lifting weights. Both sexes had "best body" type competitions. There were no wet-t-shirts. Nobody wore thongs when my Dad used to go there, but Speedo type swimwear or pretty skimpy swim shorts were common on the guys. Cutoff jeans were common beach attire for the men and there were a lot of them too. Bikinis were most common on the ladies. Dad says they did a good business all year long, but in the winter, especially during long cold snaps or icy/snowy weather that they did the most business. While the crowd was normally young people, there were old people (over 30) there too. He says they sometimes had a contest for the oldest person and a man about 75 always won. In any event, this sounds like something that with the right upgrades could make it in today's world. A place to go, be with others in beach wear, and get away from the winter weather might appeal to people like Mary. Even if thongs were not permitted it still would be a nice change of pace. Commercial hot springs in the Western part of the US usually stay open year round, and people like soaking there even in the coldest weather. Why not do the same in the middle and Eastern parts of the country that have the worst winter weather?
ohiothonger #19

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I have often thought that a private establishment could make it if they regularly permitted thongs and either advertised this or made sure there was enough word-of-mouth to keep the place going. I don't mean that other swimwear would not be permitted, I simply mean that the place would be accepting of thongs and unwilling to bow down to people who complained. In the summer, a private pool, swim-club lake, or similar place could use this. But a place like Traci describes that is opened all year, and was comfortable and safe for thonging clients might be able to keep up a good business, even without alchohol or even food and drink sales. (Some localities have "high standards" for restaurants and clubs that serve food that might not permit half-naked people from eating there, or there might be some type of seperation in the law that would prevent food sales at an indoor pool area due to the chlorine, sanitation, or other concerns.) While openly promoting and prehaps even encouraging thong wearing, the place might turn-off some people, but at the same time, they might also get a whole new and appreciative stream of regular guests. They could always have thong days and non-thong days if that would help. Motels and hotels often permit thonging and often nobody seems to care. While I have never seen an advertisement saying thongs are permitted, it seems odd that if you sleep at a place you are likely to be permitted to wear a thong, but if you only spend a few hours at a place, you can not wear a thong.
JayByrd #20

Re:Coping with Winter and Cold Weather Depression -- Any Ideas?

Date Posted:11/30/2018 01:49:05Copy HTML

Our local non-landed nudist club rents out a whole hotel for a weekend in January. We get a DJ and catered dinners... you never have to leave the property. The hotel leaves the sauna and pool/hot tube available 24 hours a day for anyone that wants to use them. My wife and I go nude, (as about 90% of the others do), but some thong it. It makes for a great mid-winter break.
Mary0826 #21

Re:Coping with Winter and Cold Weather Depression -- Any Ideas?

Date Posted:12/06/2018 07:00:13Copy HTML

We had a few days last week when it was in the 50's and even lower 60's. I was at the Walmart (sorry, it's handy and a good place to people watch) and a couple of guys were shopping in open-side T-shirts but sweat pants. While a somewhat odd combination, I give them credit for pushing the summer season into late November and December. I came back the next day, which was a little cooler and wore a skimpy bikini top with a light jacket over it. Once in the store, my jacket wound up in the shopping cart. Surprisingly, nobody (except one cute young man) said a word, and he simply said something about getting cold outside the store. I showed him the coat and he changed the conversation to my top and said something like "a girl who wears tops like that must be popular." Getting a compliment on minimal swimwear (even if only a bikini top) in the middle of winter certainly made my day and brought me renewed faith that soon, I it would be getting warmer again. Next year, however, I plan to push showing skin on cooler days than I have before.
kiyoothong #22

Re:Coping with Winter and Cold Weather Depression -- Any Ideas?

Date Posted:12/06/2018 05:05:50Copy HTML

Hey I feel you. I live in Canada, and winter here is 5 months long. I get depressed too because I really enjoy the outdoors, but I can't do any outdoor activities during winter. I grew up in the Middle East, so I don't know how to ski or snowboard. Since my thonging options are limited during winter, I make the most of summer. In order to cope with winter, I try to take my thonging indoors. Luckily, I have my go-to spa and my go-to tanning salon. This is the best that I can do right now because I am a student and I can't afford to take long vacations in Florida.
aussiesf86 #23

Re:Coping with Winter and Cold Weather Depression -- Any Ideas?

Date Posted:12/06/2018 09:50:11Copy HTML

Brand new indoor water park. Not anywhere near me but if anyone is visiting there maybe they can let everyone know how they do with thongs. It does mention an adults only pool and bar. Hopefully thongs and maybe gstring will at least be allowed there in the adult areas. If not in the rest of the water park.... with a speedo or bikini cover up at most. https://www.aquaticgroup.com/news-and-updates/soundwaves-indoor-waterpark-opens-to-the-public/
Mary0826 #24

Re:Coping with Winter and Cold Weather Depression -- Any Ideas?

Date Posted:12/07/2018 11:36:23Copy HTML

Aussie -- If thongs are permitted, even only in an adult area, this would be a neat place to go. I would think about going here as a weekend trip. I notice that (unfortunately) you have to stay at their hotel to use this facility (except for an exception for locals). This is too bad, but at the same time would keep some of the riff-raff out. Having to pay an arm and a leg for a motel room probably would not be cost effective for most people who are there simply to be swimwear critics. We have a big Country Music festival in Fort Loramie, Ohio in July every year. There are essentually no rules at the concert stage, in the campground, or anywhere in between. With the exception of fights or major drinking or major drug use, anything goes. I have gone here and spent my days topfree. I'm not talking about a 3-second exposure at the concert stage, I am talking about litterally getting up in the morning, putting on my tiniest G-string, and not wearing a stitch more the rest of the day. Top free concert going is not all that common on the women, but at the same time, those who do it are either simply ignored or given compliments, some very nice. There has been a change in the last few years where women who used to get cat-calls even if they just wore cutoff jeans and a t-shirt are now treated with repsect and permitted to do their own thing without issue. Last year I took a plunge into nudity at the concert and spent the last day in my birthday suit, and was so well accepted that in a half hour I forgot I was showing everything. While topfree seems to be well accepted on women, thonging is also well accepted, but pretty rare and even more rare on the men. I see only a couple of men each year in thongs, and they seem to find friends to hang around with since some of the comments about their choice of concert wear are not as friendly as the women get. These comments are similar to those women who wore thongs used to get 10 years ago, but still 99% of the other men, and 100% of the women have no issues with guys in thongs. One of the first baggies I saw was on a particularly well endowed man at the concert. We do get children and teens at this event, usually escorted by a parent or two. I think that the smallest ones must have a parent or guardian present. Nobody seems to care that the children get to see women and men in thongs or less. The teens seem to run around with little or no supervision. Most are there for the music, pot, and sex. Some of the teen girls wear as little as I do. Last year a few of the teen boys wandered from their tents to the showers in the buff. Guys this age seem more at ease with total nudity than thongs. The campground is a big party all night long, and besides the booze and dope, there is a lot of sex over there after hours. I see that this water park is associated with the Grand Old Opery, and therfor must assume it is a country music theme park. If the same type people were to go here as go to our 3-day concert, I think thongs would be tollerated by almost all other patrons. I like the idea that they plan to crank the heat up to a summer like temperature, and will have an adult area, but would like a little more information about what this means.
Mary0826 #25

Re:Coping with Winter and Cold Weather Depression -- Any Ideas?

Date Posted:12/07/2018 11:47:18Copy HTML

Just checked the SoundWaves website. Thongs are not permitted per rule 15: What attire and footwear is required? Please bring a bathing suit and aqua socks or flip flops. Thong swimwear is not permitted. Cover ups, shirts and shoes are required in all resort public areas outside of SoundWaves. I guess this new high-tech attraction is stuck in the old low-tech world as far as swimwear acceptance goes. Probably too many old people there and not enough youth and this might be the reasoning for the rule -- or they just are scared of someone pushing the thong limits and upsetting too many people. It would be interesting to see how they enforce the rule (only when issues arrise or truely for everyone). It also will be interesting to see what they will do with those cute young women who choose to wear extreme cheeky swimwear that actually are thongs, or very close to thongs. Mary
JM_Runs #26

Re:Coping with Winter and Cold Weather Depression -- Any Ideas?

Date Posted:12/07/2018 01:48:21Copy HTML

For pool swimming, where there is no sun, I don't care what style swimsuit I wear, so long as I find it comfortable, and am comfortable in it. Obviously one feels a bit sexier in something less than a burker. For guys, when thongs are not allowed, if you have a hot body and buns of steel, you might want to try one of the Very Low cut swimsuits by Mategear. They make some that look like speedos, just cut down a lot from the top, to make very a low cut competition style swimsuit. https://mategear.com/collections/swimwear-mini-signature-mini-bikinis/products/signature-mini-swim-bikini-kum-ja-without-lining Got to have the right body to pull that off in a crowded pool.
Mary0826 #27

Re:Coping with Winter and Cold Weather Depression -- Any Ideas?

Date Posted:12/07/2018 09:36:30Copy HTML

The SoundWaves website claims that they are using special materials in their skylights that permit the UV rays through. They advise people to use sun screen, and suggest that people who do not want sun should either rent an umbrella (they have a limited number) or a cabana. I agree that at indoor venues without tanning opertunities, that the cut of a swimsuit is not as important. I do personnally prefer to wear as little as possible all the time, so minimal swimwear, topfree pool use, and similar beach looks are prefered by me for indoor pools. Likewise, on a "date" with my husband or one of my other male friends, I like to show off as much as possible in a short mini dress or something with a plunging neckline. Even in the winter, during the worst part of the season, I go to more casual places like malls, stores, and local places wearing as little as possible. It never seemed fair to me that by being a woman, I could get away with less clothing than men do in the same setting. The only exception is that shirtless men are almost always accepted more than shirtless women.
Mary0826 #28

Re:Coping with Winter and Cold Weather Depression -- Any Ideas?

Date Posted:12/07/2018 09:49:24Copy HTML

I am trying to start a few new "family" traditions to help with my deperssion in the winter and also to make the long-cold winter months move along faster. This weekend, my folks and I are going to a State Park Lodge. They do not permit thongs at the indoor swimming pool, but there are other things that will keep things interesting. They have good food and many other recreational activities. We also plan to go to a Century's old Inn -- one of the nations oldest continually operating establishments -- for dinner one night, and also take in a movie at a theater another night. Next week, we plan to spend the night at a bed and breakfast we discovered quite by accident. They have traditional rooms furnished with antiques, breakfast and dinner meals included in the room cost. Unlike many such places, they have squeezed a small sauna and hot tub in the basement and the management said as long as nobody objected we can wear as much or as little as we want. They did warn us that street clothing was needed outside the rooms and hot-tub area. All three of my "men" will be traveling on this trip.
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