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BeachBum413 #301

Re:Enjoying the Az sun II - continuation of the - Enjoying the Arizona sun

Date Posted:04/20/2008 02:06:12Copy HTML

 I think that it's interesting that the girls can wear skimpy swimwear but if the guys do it then it strange or unusual. I also thaink that Craig is doing his best to educate those around him that skimpy swimsuits on guys are OK. Over the years at our cottage I have been wearing smaller and smaler swimsuits. It's taken a while but the neighbors and the grandkids are fine with it. They just look at me as the grandpa in the bikini. Generally I wear a Dore low low 3 inch bikini, but I hope that the wife will let me wear the thong this year. She's quite comfortable with me wearing it at home. In fact that all that I wore today, but only in the back yard.So my point is that it's up to us to show the uptight forks that we're just normal folks and not unusial or something wierd. Craig is doing that, so keep it up, let them look an honk. I wish that I had his courage and I could wear my thong in the front yard too.
JM_Runs #302

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Date Posted:04/21/2008 12:58:05Copy HTML

 BeachBum, I think there needs to be clarification that it's ok in a beach setting, where 99% of people tend to wear less then they do around the house, at work, or elsewhere.

I've never seen a girl at a carwash in a thong, or out in her parents driveway washing the car in a thong, or planting bushes in a thong.  And as we'll both agree that women can 'get away' with it more then men, then you are absolutely making the point that AzCraig is a visual neusance and absolutely inappropriate.

Take it to the beach, or keep it in your backyard, and you wont need to worry about what others think. 
IMHO.
azcraig #303

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Date Posted:04/21/2008 03:53:57Copy HTML

Saturday night I went to the local dirt track to watch the races. I sat with some people I see there all of the time. During intermission the announcer was talking about upcoming events and mentioned that they were going to have a pool in the infield someplace and everyone that shows up in a bikini that night gets in for five bucks. The wife of one of the guys (don’t know her name) turns around and say’s “there ya go Craig, wear one of those little speedos and you can get in for five bucks”.
Fred (her husband) added that if they had a bikini contest I could probably win that too. The whole group laughed. Fred then said, Shit, you wear your speedo and I’ll pay the five bucks. (I don’t ever remember talking about what I wear with this group.)
I asked him why he thought I might wear a speedo to the track. His wife said you’re out running around in them all the time anyway, you might as well. Then one of the other guys asked what they were talking about and they told him all about it. She even told them that they once saw me on the side of the road changing a flat tire in a skimpy little bikini. I asked why they didn’t stop to help in a joking manner, and they told me when they went by the first time they did not see me, there was someone else working on it. When they came back it looked like I was just finishing so they just honked and went on.
As this conversation raged on out-of-control, everybody jumped in. One of the other women asked “so do you wear a speedo, a thong, a G String or what? I kind of gave her a general explanation that they were very small bikini kind of suits. Then she asked, you said they, how many of these things do you have?
Fred’s wife told her I had blue, red , black, bright lime green, bright yellow, orange…..she looked at me and asked “did I miss any?”.
I told her it was her story so she could tell it any way she wanted. I then touched on what has happened that past few weeks and that I might have to change my attire. One of the other guys, we call him Barney, told me in a very serious tone that if I was comfortable wearing a speedo around my house I shouldn’t let the criticism of others effect my own self image. You are happy with yourself and are comfortable with your life, in this country you are free to follow your own preferences. At the end of the day you need to be proud of yourself and not be concerned of others perceptions. For when all is said and done, the Lord will still love you and nobody, but nobody can take that away.
Then the announcer started announcing the Main Event line-up and the conversation ended. We watched the races and all got up to leave. Fred’s wife told me that they would be back bikini weekend so I better wear mine. I told her, only if you wear yours.
She said you’re on.
Then I told her that includes Fred too.
She told me that we would even want to see him in a bikini and he said and you won’t either. (Fred is in his late forties, about 6’6” and about 300 or so pounds so she is probably right)
One of the other gals said you wear one of your little speedos and I’ll put in ten bucks.
So will I, Freds wife said.
Fred reminded her he already agreed to pay my way in. By the time we got to the exit gate and split up it was at 50 or 60 bucks.
My first reaction is that I won’t do it, but for 50 or 60 bucks it might be kind of funny to call their bluff. The part that I wonder about most is that I have known all these same people for 5 to 7 years and this has never come up before. I wonder how many more folks I know that have seen me but never said a word?
JM_Runs #304

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Date Posted:04/21/2008 12:56:10Copy HTML

I agree with Sliding G, everyone seems to know about your suits, let them look. It's your home and you're doing nothing illegal, to hell with them. I wear a g-string by the pool but don't have to guts to wear it out to the mail box...yet! One thing that bothered me about your last post tho. You mentioned Fred was in his mid 40's 6'6" and 300 lbs and prob. wouldn't want to see him in a bikini? Isn't that the attitude we're trying to do away here? That only the young, beautiful and thin (what ever classifies as any of those) can wear a bikini or less takes away from Fred to wear what he wants. Not meaning to sound preachy, but anyone who feels good enough to wear a suit like that should be able to. Thanks for letting me jump on the soapbox! Enjoy your stories and look forward to hearing more.
JM_Runs #305

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Date Posted:04/21/2008 03:39:56Copy HTML

Hey there, I work hard at trying to stay good looking in a g-string also. And it's always nice to get an admiring gaze(gawk). Guess my point was beauty is def. in the eye of the beholder and to each their own.
JM_Runs #306

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Date Posted:04/21/2008 03:45:02Copy HTML

I'm starting to come around to Craig's way of thinking after this morning...he should be free to wear what works for him, as long as it's legal.    On my rollerblade trip this morning, there's a spot where the trail goes parallel to a busy road for about a mile.  Some girls who looked like they go to the local community college slowed their car down a little and smiled and waved at me...some other person behind them in an suv didn't notice them slowing and squeeked their breaks.  No fender bender, but mighty close.  I was wearing a t-shirt and spandex shorts with a 4" inseam (thong underneath) like I often do, because they don't flap around uncomfortably in the wind when I go fast.  Nothing extreme...just goes to show that people will be distracted by anything and act stupid, I guess. 
azcraig #307

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Date Posted:04/22/2008 02:53:20Copy HTML

hdmichael: I do not object to anyones right to wear what they want that is legal. Fred is a really great guy and fun to be around. His exercise plan in opening the next beer and holding it unitl it is gone. In his own words "yeah I don't need no six pack abs, I got the whole pony keg" as he pats his belly that looks like he is about 9 months pregnant. That is what he will say when anyone starts talking about being in or out of shape. We all get a good laugh out of that.   
JM_Runs #308

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Date Posted:04/22/2008 12:31:58Copy HTML

LOL. Trust me, I have plenty of friends who have the pony keg going on! Not what I'd like to see or be like either. But at least we can all laugh about it!
azcraig #309

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Date Posted:04/28/2008 07:13:24Copy HTML

Spent most of Sunday outside. It was a sunny day in the high 90’s. Wore a red micro and did my usual outdoor activities. Traffic passing by was moderate and there were about the usual amount of honks, yells and turn-arounds. For the most part things were calm. One person stopped to ask for directions (they were way lost) without comment.

Had to go to HD to get some weed killer an pulled on some shorts that have about a one inch inseam. While there I heard some guy say to his friend “look how short that dudes shorts are”. The other guys said “ those must be his daughters” and they both laughed. As I was waiting in line at the cashier the woman behind me asked how I got my legs so tan and I told her I spent a lot of time outdoors. She said that with those shorts and there were no tan lines she thought maybe I was going to a tanning salon. I told her that around the house I really don’t wear much so my tan lines are minimal. Then she asked “so do you like wear a G string or something?” I told her no, just very small little bikini type of suits, to which she said “well I’ll bet that’s a sight”. Not knowing what she meant by that I just smiled, and went on my way.

When I got home Jean told me that someone in a red car left this on the back door as she held up a plastic bag. She told me she only saw the car driving away so she did not know who it was. Inside was a black one inch side bikini with a note. The note read: "Try this, it is not like wearing shorts but may not cause as many problems. I’ll be watching to see how it works." ...???????????

I don’t know who it was but almost feel like it is someone on this board. Then again, maybe not, I don’t know. At any rate, I finished the day in the red that I had started the day with. It was a beautiful day to enjoy the Arizona sun.
rock1212 #310

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Date Posted:05/01/2008 04:17:40Copy HTML

I am willing to be that had the bikini left on your door been from someone on this board it would have probably been a g-string or something that is at least smaller than what you normally wear!
BeachBum413 #311

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Date Posted:05/13/2008 06:55:49Copy HTML

After following azcraig's adventurs he has inspired me. I have been a sort of closet thong wearer for years. I wear them generally on our deak for sunning. It's pretty secluded so there is no real problem with this. This year on our vacation our neighbor told the wife that I should wear thongs as I would look good in them. Since we came back she has beem much more tolerant of me wearing them. Lately I have been wearing them in the back yard while doing yard work and she hasn't said anything. Today I had to work on our garden and it's in the open and I can easly be seen from the road and my neighbors. It was a great day so I started with the thong and shorts over it. As it warmed up I finally said to heck with the shorts and only had my Dore 3d thong on. My meighbor came out and waved at me but didn't say anything. I'm not sure who else saw me but almost anyone driving down the road could have. It was great. I plan on keeping doing my yard work in the thong and will see about the front yard later on. I am also planning on wearing the thong at our cottage this summer. The best that I have been able to do so far is a Dore 3 inch bikini. There really isn't a lot of diference between the two and what they cover, so I'm hoping that the wife will let me wear the thong this year. I know that I will need to wear my old speedos some of the time (especially when my kids are arround, but my grandaughter loves the yellow thong and wants me to wear it whenever she is arround.) Like arcarig I also have some prudish neighbors at the lake and have been slowly educating them.

arcraig keep doing your thing and keep us posed as to what happens you are an inspiration to all of us trying to get thongs more redially accepted
azcraig #312

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Date Posted:05/14/2008 01:23:10Copy HTML

Had some of the group over on Sunday for our first pool party of the year. Ann was on a mission to prove a point to passing traffic and had contacted the others telling them to wear the smallest g strings they had. I had to ask her not to do that and explained that I was trying to calm things down, not stir it up. She told me “you’re no fun”. We agreed that thongs were okay. (What is happening to me that I am worried about how little someone will wear?)

Ann and Larry arrived about 12:15 for the 1:00 party. Ann and Larry both came in wearing shorts and a tank tops. Naturally Ann's shorts were very short and Larrys about 2 inches above his knee. Going out back to lay in the sun, Ann strips down to a blue and green print very small thong with triangle top, and Larry removed his shorts to reveal a black and orange 2 inch side speedo. Jean and I wore matching turquoise very small rio cut bikinis.

At about 1:00 Paul and Marci arrive with Tony and Becky. Tony ends up wearing a blue print string bikini, and Becky wore what I guess was a brown print mono kini. It kind of had a standard cut rio bottom with a metal ring in the front that hooked the top and bottom together. The front was like an X with the ring just above her navel. Paul had on a rather small kind of silver/gray color thong.

Marci had on a more of a brazil bottom with a pretty standard size triangle top. This was more swimsuit than I think I ever saw Marci wear. There was an interesting twist to it. The suit was a tan kind of color, about the color of her skin so it blended in and was hard to tell if she was even wearing anything. The twist part??? The top had about an inch and a half brown circle right in the center about where her nipples would be. The bottom had some shadowing, and dark colored vertical lines. The coloring made the bottoms look like a clean shaven nude female. When you looked at her she looked totally naked, in the front or rear!  The closer you looked, the more naked she looked. I was very interesting to say the least.

She asked me, "Well, does this cover enough?"  I told her it covered plenty but sure didn’t appear that way. Everyone was looking and then Ann turned around and said “wholly shit girl you look butt naked!! Ann loved the look and asked where she got the suit. Marci told her she found the suit at the mall in that color. Then she took a photo of herself in the nude and went to one of those airbrush dudes in the mall and had him airbrush the details on it.

Ann wanted more details so she could get one too. Then she turned to Paul and asked why he didn’t get one too. Paul said he thought that might be a little over the top, to which Marci added “is what he really means is he was chicken”.

As we enjoyed the afternoon and caught up on the latest gossip, every time I saw Marci I did a double take thinking she was naked. Ann asked, "So when do we wash cars?" and I told her not today.

As the afternoon continued the girls went into the house. A few minutes later I heard loud long honks, whistles, and cat call coming from out front. I went out to see what the commotion was to find Ann, Becky and Marci washing Becky’s truck in the street.

Not wanting to be any more of a party pooper than I already was I just shook my head and returned to the back yard to explain what was going on. We decided to let them do their thing. The ruckus was non-stop for about 20 minutes. Then all got quiet.

Jean came to the door and told me I should probably go out front. I got up and went out to find two unmarked police cars with plain clothes cops talking to the girls. As I approached one of the officers he greeted me by name and said “we could have a problem here”.

"What’s that?" I asked.

"Well," he said “this ones swimsuit" (Marci), "borders on being lewd, and together the three of them are causing a disruptive scene.  This could be considered creating a public nuisance for which I could write some citations or make arrests. You being the home owner you would share in the charges so I am just asking you to take care of it for me”.

I told him I had no idea that this was going on and asked the girls to go back inside. Ann said “Man you can even have a crummy car wash in this area." 

The cop told her, "Look I don’t care if you wash a hundred cars if you will just cover up a little. This guy" (pointing at me) "causes us enough of a stir, he doesn’t need your help."

I herded the girls to the back, and thanked the officer. As he walked back to his car he told me if he was called back again I will have to take more serious action. I assured him that would not be necessary.

As the day came to an end we all promised to get together soon. Ann reminded me that if it really was 100 degrees this coming week I was going to lose the first 100 degree day pool (we do every year). I had forgotten about that but she s right. We will have to see how that turns out. All in all it was nice to have the group together and out enjoying the Arizona sun.
azcraig #313

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Date Posted:05/18/2008 01:50:46Copy HTML

It is supposed to be 102 or 3 today. Very dry. Looks like Iwill be hosting this years first day over a 100 party. The loser (that one with the farthest wrong guess) has to host for all the others. I guess I better start thinking about what/where I am gonna do. The past couple losers had really raised the bar with their creativity.
azcraig #314

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Date Posted:05/20/2008 02:12:51Copy HTML

With it promising to be over 100 degrees Sunday I put on a bright yellow AZ Rio (what I call a micro) and went about doing my weekend chores. I spent a lot of time out front doing yard work and things were pretty quiet.

There were about 5 hello honks (short beep beeps) and only 2 wow honks (long steady honk). I only saw one turn around and had a couple of yells. This was pretty quiet for the amount of traffic. There was a couple in a grey Mercedes that stopped for about a minute and sat across the street. A couple of folks stopped to chat for a short time and that was about it. It is really confusing how it has gone from people crashing into each other to almost no reaction at all in just a few weeks. I am really getting mixed signals.

On another note, I was talking to Paul and he told me that he and Marci went down to their community pool wearing pretty moderate thongs to lay out for a while on Sunday. They were there about 20 minutes or so when the new complex manager came up and told them they needed to change into something a little more appropriate and that thongs were not allowed at the pool area.

When Paul pointed out they had been wearing thongs to the pool every since they moved in the new manger told him there was a new sheriff in town and that he was no longer going to allow them. Rather than make a scene poolside they left. Paul went back and put on a string side bikini.

He said Marci was mad as a hornet and chewed Paul out for not standing up to the new manager. So she put on her bikini that makes her look naked that she had worn to my house last week and back to the pool they went.

The manager was still there when they arrived so they got into the water and then laid down on the lounge chairs. The manager came over to them again staring at Marci’s bikini and told Paul that he wanted him to stop by the office at his convenience. Paul asked him why and he told Paul that they just needed to talk so Paul agreed.

I have not heard the results of that meeting yet. At about 1:00 on Sunday Ann called and talked to Jean telling her it had just turned 100 so I had had picked the wrong date and we lost the first day at 100 contest. She told Jean that we should have gone with her prediction instead of mine. I’m sure they both had a good laugh at my expense.

Now I have to figure out what I can do to host a really unique party for the group. With Memorial Day weekend this week it is forecast to be nice and sunny here. Hope it is sunny and warm for all of you while I am enjoying the Arizona sun.
sheerdelight #315

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Date Posted:05/21/2008 09:33:43Copy HTML

It will be interesting to see if the manager will take issue with Marci's bikini. It probably covers a lot more than what she normally wears. I haven't seen any bikini outfits so described by AzCraig though some one piece swimsuits with material around legs and sides can appear very revealing. Not much manager can really say about it as nothing is exposed. Isn't strange that an outfit (say a one piece with very high sides and or plunging front) can look more revealing than a bikini consisting of a quarter of the material!
dayne #316

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Date Posted:05/23/2008 06:48:56Copy HTML

I believe unless it is clearly posted at the pool, you can wear anything that meets Arizona statues as to what is legally covered. I know of one person who walked down Central Ave (near Park Central) in a thong and wasn't arrested.
rock1212 #317

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Date Posted:05/25/2008 06:49:08Copy HTML

http://www.azleg.state.az.us/FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/ars/13/01402.htm&Title=13&DocType=ARS

There's the state statute on indecent exposure in AZ.  As far as I am concerned from what I have read in here over the years, Craig and his wife are well within the law on that issue.

As far as the manager goes at Paul and Marci's place, he REALLY needs to get a grip!
azcraig #318

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Date Posted:05/27/2008 01:01:12Copy HTML

It was warming up again. Now it had been 110 at the early part of the week and on Thursday was in the 60’s and rainy. Not a common weather swing for May in Phoenix.

Got up Saturday put on a royal blue micro and went about my business. Spent almost the whole day outside. Washed the truck, did yard work etc. While out front I got a few hello honks, a few wow honks, a few turn arounds and several slow drive bys.

At about 3:00 I was raking up some trimmings and this white Lexus drives past slowly twice that I saw. The next time the car stops in front of my house, on my side of the street with the drivers door closest to the center of the road. A woman gets out and kind of stands in the door looking at me. After about 30 seconds or so, she asks “Can you come rake my yard?”

I told her no, I had enough to do to keep me busy. Speaking with a slight foreign accent she said “Judging from your very dark tan you must spend a lot of time in that swimsuit.”

I told that was my summer work attire and that is about all I wear all summer.  She then told me “There are very few men that have that much self confidence to be seen in public like that.  You are quite a sight to behold.”

I told her thanks and that I had been wearing these for so many years I don’t even really think about it anymore. She then said “Well you are quite a sight, so if you don’t mind I will watch for a while as you go about what you were doing.”

I told her setting in the road like that might not be the safest thing but she was free to do as she liked. She then told me that she was very serious about doing her yard. She only lived about a mile away and would like to hire me to take care of her yard.

I told her thanks but I really was not interested. She said okay then, and drove away. I went on finishing my cleanup project and about 15 minutes later she was back with a female friend.

She pulled up the same way rolled down the passenger window and just stared for a while. Then she got out and came over to me. She stuck out her hand to shake and said, “Hi my name is Sheila." I shook her hand and told her my name. She then said, “Craig, I am very serious about wanting you to take care of my yard. I will pay you $25 per hour.”

I told her thanks just the same but I really wasn’t interested. I then asked why she wanted ME to do it so bad. She said “Well look at your place, everything is just perfect. Well trimmed, clean, with everything so green, your yard looks exquisite. And you’re nice to look at too."

I told her that this attire was what I wore at home and at your house it would be shorts and a shirt. Holding up one finger swinging it left to right she said “no, no, no, you said 'this is what work in all summer' and I am offering you to work for me. So you will think about it, yes?”

I thanked her again but told her I really didn’t think I was interested. She said “Well good, you first said no now you say you think, maybe tomorrow you will say yes?"   I told her I was really flattered but didn’t think I was interested.

She told me to think about it and gave me a card with her name (spelled Sheelah) address and phone number, and asked me to give it some thought as the offer remains open. Then she slid her glasses down on her nose, tilted her head forward looking over her glasses, in a very soft voice asked “You aren’t gay are your?”

I kind of laughed and told her no, not at all. She sighed and said "Oh that is very good."   As she went back toward her car she said ‘Well Craig, it was very nice seeing you and please give it some thought."  I did not respond and she got in her car and left.

Jean and I have a very good relationship and have total trust in each other. I would never cheat or do anything inappropriate, and she knows that. I showed her Sheelahs card and told her the story. Jean said “She offered you 25 bucks an hour to do her yard work?" 

I told her yeah, but in my bikini. "You should call her and see if she will give you 30", Jean suggested.

"And what if she says yes?" I asked Jean. You could do her yard work in two four hour days and make a few hundred bucks.

"What if she is wanting more than just yard work I asked?" I trust that you can set her straight on that and keep it on a professional level Jean told me as she gave me a hug.

Although the money is tempting, I just feel like this is not a good idea. What a weird start to the summer it has been.  All this from just wanting to spend my time enjoying the Arizona sun.
rock1212 #319

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Craig, my hat is off to Jean for having a sense of humor, and being cool about it, since a lot of wives would blow their tops off in a situation like that!  I agree that doing yard work for that lady is probably not a good idea.  I think she wants you to do a little more than yard work at her house!  If you were single, I would say go for it though!
pkthong #320

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Date Posted:05/27/2008 05:48:28Copy HTML

 Kudos to your wife for being a sport about it.
 If you do not find this lady or her friend attractive then her advances probably would not be an issue and what the heck we all could use a few extra bucks.If after the first time it turns out to be more than what was bargained for you could always quit. However if you quit and she used that as an excuse to get back at you,eg. call police with baseless accusations etc., it may well indeed be a bad idea.
 Anyway I think most straight men don't mind being ogled by women esp. good looking ones.
dayne #321

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Date Posted:05/28/2008 02:39:23Copy HTML

 Find out who has been doing her yard work.  Perhaps that person can tell you what to expect.  Over all if something doesn't feel right I don't do it.  If I have to talk myself into it...the same-let it go.
azcraig #322

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Date Posted:05/28/2008 03:08:03Copy HTML

I guess I left the part out about what she looked like. That is partially because I wasn’t thinking of that as a part of the issue.  Because what I wear is second nature to me and such a standard part of my routine, I tend to forget most people see sexual implications of wearing minimal clothing. I don’t feel that.Anyway, Sheelah was a well dressed business professional looking woman, I would guess in her early to mid thirties. She had short brown hair about 5’8” or so, rather petite and average looking.  Nothing outstanding but she did seem very well kept. The thought of doing her yard work or not was not based off of if she was really hot or not. I’m not about that. Yeah, it may sound a little boring to feel that way but I suppose that gives me some stability.
nadathing #323

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Date Posted:05/28/2008 04:32:57Copy HTML

Craig, many of us have enjoyed following your experiences over time here, and many of us are envious of you.  You get to wear small bikinis; you have a wife who wears microkinis and (thongs too on occasion I think) and who enjoys you wearing yours and supports you in that; you have your own pool to provide opportunities for you both wearing them; and you have developed a collection of like minded friends who share your experiences.  The women sound fantastic. I think the guys have tended to come along more slowly, but have indeed come around too, and that provides mutual support for you from that direction.   That Marcie, sounds like a real wild lady!  I think she's the one you said had a large collection of bikinis and thongs organized under her bed.
Your evolving problem is probably caused by two things.  (1) This aspect of your life style falls in to that geart big gray area.  As one wears less and less, one can encounter more and more extreme reaction at both bends of the spectrujm from others.  You indicate that you wear microbikinis -- not thongs.  Shouldn't be a problem, but is for a few people.  Also you don't appear to be interested in exhibiting yourself, but simply enjoy wearing them and don't feel you are "over the line."  I don't think you personally are either.
(2) Your neighborhood and street has gotten more busy, so more and more people are around as time goes on.  Somebody who lives in the wilderness and has no neighbors or passers by, could do whatever they like outside.  But somebody in the middle of a crowd has a different situation.  A woman in a typical bikini raises no special problems on the beach, but if she were on the street downtown in a major metropolitan area, she would cause a riot.  Your situation is moving in that direction, not because of anything you are doing, but because your environment is changing around you.  It isn't you or what you do.  Don't know what you will do to deal with that.
The girls in your crowd seem like they want to take a stand for a dress code at the street that is beyoud your personal desires.  You could let them go, but it appears like it would cause problems for you if they get out of hand more.  Perhaps they need to know what battles to fight and when to stop.
Best of luck and we'll keep reading to see.
JM_Runs #324

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Craig, do the ladies in your group wash their cars in front of their own homes dressed as they were in front of yours?  If not, I think they're taking advantage of your easy going ways and deserve to be curbed -- you're in charge, and if you're the one who may suffer the consequences of their over-the-top behavior, then you're the one to call the shots. 
I fully appreciate your comfort level with the attire you've chosen, as that grows over time.  But these ladies seem to enjoy pushing the boundaries just for its own sake.  That's fine up to a point, we all do it, but we've got to stay sane about it, not loose perspective.  We live in a civil society and must respect others' sensibilities to some degree. 
The local cops appear very tolerant and willing to work with you, so long as they perceive you are exercising some measure of good judgment and not 'rocking the boat' too much.  You can make their lives easier, and your own, by being sensible.  From all accounts, you are doing that very well.  Congratulations on being your own man, including being a committed, faithful husband.  I'll second Nadathing, you sound like a great team.  Have fun, and keep us posted! 
azcraig #325

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Paul and Marci invited us over on Saturday to spend some time at their community pool.  Paul had not fully resolved the “no thongs” rule that the new manager had put in and thought we should have a peaceful afternoon to show the guy we are no threat.

I guess he met with the manager and discussed this new restriction. He told Paul that there were complaints and he was just acting to protect the interests of all of the tenants. When Paul asked to see a copy of the complaints the mgr told him that was private. Paul told him he could block out who they were from he just wanted to see the context of the complaint. I guess as the conversation went on it slipped out that this was really just this managers personal feeling more than that of the tenants.

When all was said and done Paul told him that he or the company would have to give him notice in writing stating the nature of the complaint and sighting what law and or written rules he was breaking at the pool. The guy told Paul he didn’t want to make a big deal out of it and was just doing his job. I guess Paul reminded him how long they had lived there and how much they had paid the company in rents which he was sure was more than the managers annual salary.

Because Paul and Marci moved in long before he came along, and a thong friendly atmosphere was part of the reason they chose this complex, Paul would be reluctant to just arbitrarily change to suit the managers personal feelings. Paul then called the corporate headquarters that manages the complex, told them of the problem and issued his “in writing” demands to them. They promised to look into it and get back to him. Up to now they have not contacted him back.

Paul’s request was to come over but he and Marc were not going to wear thongs to the pool, but we could do what we wanted. He also invited Ann and Larry.  Jean and I put on matching red micro’s and went over. When we got there Ann and Larry were already there. Paul invited us in and told us Ann was ready to escalate the issue and asked if we were going to be a part. We showed him what we had on and Ann comes in wearing two very small pasties an a G string. She said she had looked up the law and this is legal and there ain’t a damn thing they can do about it. Maybe they won’t give Paul and Marci any more s*#t after she spends the day at the pool. After a brief discussion we convinced Ann that maybe this wasn’t the best approach. She then admitted that she thought we might not go with her on it so she had brought a bikini along too. She went and changed into a rather small rio cut bikini with a small triangle top. The bikini had clear straps on the top and the sides of the bottom so even though in some ways it was not a very unacceptable cut, it sure looked that way at a glance.

We grabbed the food and headed toward the pool area.  Larry wore a pretty standard speedo looking suit, Paul a string bikini, and Marci…… well I’ll try to explain what she wore.  It was turquoise kind of print. The top was about a 3 inch tall band in the front that went from left to right with a twist in the center. As it went around the back the band got smaller, maybe about an inch tall. With the size of her breasts the band was not able to cover the top or the bottom. Her bottom was a very low V cut in the front that narrowed as it went around the sides to about one inch. The back however was, well I don’t know what you call it. It was kind of a regular bikini back except it was only about two inched tall. It went all the way across the top of her rear with about a two inch band and just curved down right at the center kind of like a thong would. I would almost call it a thong except the band around the back was much taller than a thong usually is. It gave the same amount of view as a thong without the thong look. It was very interesting to say the least. My micro was the smallest of all of the guys.

When we arrived at the pool there were about ten people there. Nobody in less than a standard cut bikini, all the guys in shorts or long trunks. We all settled in, stripped down and got in the water for a while. There were a few whispers and some staring but no comments were made. After we were there about an hour a girl shows up by herself, and takes off her wrap to reveal a pretty standard looking orange thong. She got in the water and then laid on a lounge chair to sun herself. Except for Ann popping off about “if she can wear a thong, why can’t we?” nobody said anything.

The manager never came and we left after about 2 ½ hours without incident. I don’t want to paint the picture that Ann is a problem. She is not. She is a lot of fun to be around she just has the rebel looking for a cause kind of outlook on things. She wears less in more places than anybody I have ever known. Low cut or see thru tops, and very short shorts are the norm for her. She has some kind of a karate, or something like that,  kind of training and has decked a few that went beyond the limits over the years. Although she is very petite, she know how to take care of herself. For the most part she just goes about her business without a care in the world for what others think. She is a very likeable person. She just does not take any crap from anybody.

Don’t know what all this will mean to Paul’s situation, but there certainly were no problems as far as I could tell. We just all spent the afternoon enjoying the Arizona sun.
dayne #326

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 Always look out for the small ones!  We make things happen.  Kudos to Ann and her attitude!!!
azcraig #327

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Dayne. I sure don't want to paint Ann as a girl with an attitude. I think you see that. Ann is a lot of fun to be around and I can assure you with her around, there is never a dull moment
azcraig #328

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Had the day off Friday and needed to go to the East Valley. Wearing cut offs with about a 2 in inseam and a T-shirt I went ran my errand and stopped at a bank in Chandler on my way back. While standing in line I heard “Hi Craig” and turned to see Sheelah walking towards me with her hand extended.  I said hello in a surprised tone and shook her hand.

She asked what brought me over here, I told her I was running an errand, then asked her the same question. She told me she was that branch manager and asked what my business was. I told her a deposit and she motioned me out of line (with still about 10 people in front of me) and walked me to the kiosk in the lobby. She took my deposit and handed it to another woman and asked her to “take care of this for me” as she handed her my deposit.

As the other woman walked away Sheelah asked “so have you given any thought to taking care of my yard for me?” I thanked her for the offer and told her I was flattered that she thought enough of the looks of my yard to ask me to do hers. I then told her I wasn’t sure that I had the time and probably could not commit to a set weekly schedule, and I was uncomfortable with the requirement to work in my swimsuit. She laughed and told me she was kidding about the swimsuit and I could wear whatever I want, and I didn’t have to commit to a specific time. If I had the time to just keep her yard up I could do so on my own schedule.

I asked what her husband would say about picking some guy up off of the street to take care of her yard and she told me she lost her husband about a year and a half ago in a work related accident.
I told her I was sorry and she told me “oh that’s alright, we weren’t on very good terms anyway and his death, although somewhat tragic, turned out to be very financially rewarding. That is how I bought the house I live in, she said. (That kind of creeped me out a little but I also can understand it just the same).
I then asked her who takes care of her place now? She said that the HOA had this recommended company that she uses and pays the HOA quite a bit for that service. They do a pretty good job but usually they don’t speak much, if any English, and they are a little sloppy as far as the clean up goes.

About that time the other woman walks back up and gives the deposit receipt to Sheelah. Sheelah then tells her that this is the gentleman I told you about that I am trying to get to take care of my yard. “Oh, nice to meet you” she said, we shook hands and she went back to her station.

“So” Sheelah said, “what do you think, are you interested?”
I told her I wasn’t sure and that maybe I would give it some thought.
She told me that I had her number and to just let her know. Then she said “seriously I was kind of joking with you on wearing your swimsuit, as you call it.” You can wear whatever you are comfortable in. Be it pants, your shorts, or whatever. If you want to wear your swimsuit you can get in the pool to cool off if you like. That is totally up to you.

I told her “okay and thank you for taking care of this for me (holding up the deposit receipt) She told me it was not a problem and to stop by anytime. She then asked me “so will you please give it some thought and let me now?
I told her I would, thanked her again and left.

This whole thing is kind of weird. I am not sure if I want the obligation but could use the money. I never ever dreamed that I would generate a job offer by doing yard work in my micro bikini while enjoying the Arizona sun.
nadathing #329

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Craig,  if I were in your microkini, I think I would avoid the potential complications for a little extra $$.  I wouldn't want things to get messed up with Jean.  Jean seems perfect.
dayne #330

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 Just to confirm,  azcraig,  Anne definitely sounds like my kind of woman!
azcraig #331

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nadathing   I agree. I am really not looking for a summer job. Jean is a great person and I don't take that lightly. We have a great level of trust in each other and I wouldn't even consider compromising that. Jeans idea on this is to accept the offer to take care of her place.Then hire the guys that took care of my place most of last year while I was gone to do hers to my standards. Then we could really find out her motive. My solution is just to let it die and stay completely out of it. Dayne; If you like having a tiger by the tail you would like Ann......but even tigers purr. 
dayne #332

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azcraig,

While I was attending the University of Oklahoma I was involved in a research project at the Oklahoma Zoo.  I had an encounter with a full grown female cheetah named Jocqueba who was dominate over 12 other females.   I had watched her for fifteen months as part of a research study.  While I was petting her, she rolled over on her back to have her stomach rubbed.  Her trainer was amazed as she rarely did that with anyone.  She was purring so loud it sound like a lawnmower.  Her trainer said she must REALLY like me to purr like that.  The feeling was mutual!
clean_n_smooth #333

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I agree Craig, its not worth doing anything that could cause problems with Jean. Better safe then sorry.
dayne #334

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 It may have occured to you to try this idea.  If you do your neighbour's yard, have Jean come with you to help with minor things.  If not have her come over with drinks or snacks about every fifteen minutes.
pkthong #335

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 I have rethought my position, a gal like Jean is hard to find and doing anything to jeopardize her trust would be unwise.
JM_Runs #336

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Seems really fishy to me. But you can always give it a shot and just leave if she makes unwanted advances or makes you uncomfortable. But if that doesn't happen you may make a new friend. Or you could always invite her somewhere with your other friends to get to know her better.

If she lost her husband and bought a new house she just may be looking to meet some new people, for all you know :)
dayne #337

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I gave this some further thought, Craig.   Perhaps Jean might invite her over for coffee on the days you do her lawn. When you are done, you could join them for a lunch. It would be a way for her to get you to know you as a couple. (It also eliminates the possiblility of anything happening that could create a problem for the time being.)
azcraig #338

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Went to Ann and Larry’s last weekend for a group get together. Jean and I ran a little late. Paul and Marci were there when we arrived. Ann greeted us at the door in a pale blue very small thong bottom and small triangle top. Larry was wearing shorts. About every time I think he has fallen into line with the rest of us, he strays. Oh well so be it. Paul and Marci also wore thongs. Paul a pretty standard blue print and Marci had a school bus yellow colored suit that was kind of see thru when wet. Pretty standard stuff for our group. Cliff and Sherry called and could not make it so it was a small group. I asked how Paul was doing with his apartment management group, about wearing thongs at the community pool. He told me he had not heard a word since we had been there last and they had been wearing thongs for the past couple weekends without comment. Marci also pointed out that there are two other women at the pool every weekend in thongs so she thought it was just old news now. “You know, you can report it but nobody cares “ she said. Ann told about being at the Native New Yorker (that is kind of a sports bar/restaurant) last week with Larry. One of the staff came over and told Ann her shorts were a little too short for the restaurant. She stood up and pulled them about halfway down and asked if they were long enough now. The staff guy very politely told her she couldn’t wear them that we either in the restaurant. Then told he told her they were more than welcome to go into bar. I guess Ann started to protest and Larry got up and told the staffer they would just go to the bar. Ann gave Larry a little Hell and they went into the bar. Ann pulled her shorts up as high as they would go and off into the bar area they went. She was still giving Larry a little grief over it Sunday. I talked a little about the Sheelah deal and most everyone agreed to stay away from it. Although there is some curiosity as to her motives it just has too much potential for trouble. It was a quiet non eventful day that allowed all of us to just enjoy the Arizona Sun.   (all 115 degrees of it!) 
JM_Runs #339

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I think Ann needs to grow up, show a little respect for herself and her husband.  I don't blame him for being embarrassed as hell (I assume he was, and is).  At your parties, whatever floats her boat is fine, you all enjoy letting it all hang out, but out in public there's got to be some reasonable limits.  I think the restaurant staffer handled it well, under the circumstances.  Just my two cents. 
azcraig #340

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A little about Ann. First off describing the human anatomy, there are different kinds of buttocks’.  There is the bubble but which looks like two halves of melon stuck on one’s backside, there is no shape no butt straight up and down line butt, and the contour that is smaller than the bubble butt, and tends to be a longer muscle that more blends into the upper part of the leg. Ann’s is more of the third description in that her gluteus maximus is a long muscle that blends into the upper leg rather than having the clear ending definition like the bubble butt. So with that, when Ann wears shorts that might work when worn by someone with a bubble or no butt, on her the lower part of her buns are showing. Her shorts, although usually very short, are most likely not shorter than most girls shorts are. They just have a different look on her.  The incident at the restaurant that I told about, I may not have painted a clear picutre of what happened. When Ann was told she was not appropriately dressed to be in the restaurant, the point she was really trying to make is that is it okay for someone to wear their pants with the belt line at their crotch with their underwear or butt cleavage showing, but it is not okay to be pulled up. Secondly I guess they had actually been there for a while (20 to 25 minutes) before this issue came up. She felt if she was not dressed to their code, why did they set them down in the restaurant in the first place?  She should have been told of their policy ( whatever that is) before that sat down. When she moved her shorts down letting her underwear show from the top she was making a valid point. Her shorts now should have been long enough and more in style with today’s trends. The grief she was giving Larry was about not asking why the staff didn’t mention there was a problem before they sat down and ordered. At that point they could have left or gone to the bar. I fully agree with her position on that.
dayne #341

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message for azcraig

I believe that big brush fire is out your way.  It must be a bit unpleasant for you. I live in central phoenix and my eyes are burning here.
azcraig #342

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Oh yeah, It has been raining ashes for a couple of days. Luckily the smoke is rising and not hovering at ground level so the smoke had not bee too bad. But the fire is within a  mileor so from here and we have  actually been able to see the flames from time to time.
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I live near 19th Ave and Baseline.  I had ashes in my yard also even though the fire is 5-6 miles from me.  There was no wind yesterday and the smoke cloud was impressive.  Looked like a volcano erupted. I can see the fire from my rooftop patio.  The temp is consistently around the 110 mark (just the way I like it).  Weekends are spent by the pool. Plan on wearing a Speedo Solar all day today and tomorrow.  Spent a time in the pool last night.  Wife wore a green string bikini and I wore a gold Solar.  During the day the sun is intense and care needs to be taken to protect your skin.  Sometimes if Barbara doesn’t want to put on gallon of sun block she will wear a full length spandex unitard (catsuit) in the pool.  She has worn leotards and unitards while tubing down the Salt river. Those of you who live in Phoenix are familiar with tubing the Salt. I’m a spandex lover so to see her in covered in body clinging wet spandex is great, but those stories are for a different message board. Anyway, this should be a good weekend for bikinis.   I love living in Arizona  Craig, I enjoy reading your posts.

dayne #344

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A little interesting fact for Phoenix residents.  I am not sure if this applies to other areas.  From noon to 2 pm is when one is most likely to get burned.  However, the hottest time of the day  is from 2 pm to 4 pm.
JM_Runs #345

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Dayne, how about early March?  We'll be in Scottsdale next year at that time for Indian Market, and I hope to spend some quality time by the pool at the residence inn near Shea and 69th we always stay at.  Maybe in something new from Nu-Parr.  That will be about the time I'll be looking to refresh my tan, after St Barts and Nevis in early December and Bermuda in late December.  Will 12 to 2 still be when I'll get the most bang for my buck?  Thanks.
dayne #346

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Same as later in the year. 12 to 2 is good for the most intense rays. 2 to 4 for the warmest. I can also give you the name of another store that carries some interesting things. It used to be called Unique on Central. I can get the new name and address for you if you would like.. It is a gay oriented store but if you are confident in your own sexuality shouldn't be any problem. It gets a mixture of just about everyone shopping there so the two of you would fit in just fine.  A nice store that has a interesting selection of swim things and underwear and many other things, too.
JM_Runs #347

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Dayne, thanks for the offer, but I'll pass.  I'd have no problem -- I know who I am -- but due to past traumas before we met, my wife gets very uneasy at any hint of gayness. I've worked hard to allay any fears she's harbored about me -- nothing founded, of course -- so it's just not worth the risk of rocking the boat.  We stopped by Nu-Parr the last time we were out there, but their open hours never coincided with our schedule (i.e., they were closed every time).  I'll make sure we follow their schedule on the trip coming up. 
dayne #348

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SlidingG-

I believe on of the most important thing a man can do is take care of his relationship!  I mentioned the orientation of  the shop on the possiblity there could be an issue with it.  I am glad I did now.   It is equally important to me that  your wife never have a problem with anything I might suggest!
JM_Runs #349

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Hey Dayne, you're the greatest!  I'm constantly amazed how caring the folks on this board are about each other.  As thongers, we face some pretty tough situations sometimes, and get the moral support we need right here.  This board has helped me become the happier man I am today, providing info and ideas for resolving body image, identity, values and other issues that used to trouble me.  I'm glad to know others are benefiting, too.

As an example, my one time thonging at the pool in Scottsdale I mentioned above was very tentative and in the evening, with few, maybe no one, around.  Next March, it'll be business as usual, just stroll into the pool area, strip to the thong, and do all those things one does at the pool.  Can't see why I'd bother asking management if it's okay.  Let them say so if it's not.  And I look forward to chatting with anybody who's there, learn about all sorts of things they have to share.  In other words, just be the friendly, normal guy I always am.  Each day is a great new day to be alive!  
dayne #350

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Thank you for your kind words.

Dayne
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