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Beachlover492000 #151

Re:Fort De Soto Beach

Date Posted:09/08/2008 02:09:43Copy HTML

You are OK a Ft. DeSoto so long as you cover your private parts. It's not a good idea to wear see-though suits, and you should wear suits that have a strap or string around your hips. The strapless suits or "baggies" are asking for trouble because it looks like you are nude from many angles. That starts complaints and gets the rangers looking at you more closely.

The biggest challenge now for many thongers is that the more private area that was once a forest has been closed for the birds. You can walk by the gulf there, but you can't set up your stuff around the bend out of the site of the more populated area. If you don't care who sees you, there is no problem.
tbck1000 #152

Re:Fort De Soto Beach

Date Posted:09/08/2008 10:08:01Copy HTML

 Thanks Beachlover.  I don't mind who sees me.  But going back to your comment about the straps:  Does that apply to the rear vertical strap?  That's mainly what I'm worried about.  If the rear strap is not visible from a distance is there danger that someone will think my rear is not covered and report me?I pretty much wear only Skinz suits these days. So it comes down to the sunseeker rio, super low rio, or the skinny side thong.
bigbuzz #153

Re:Fort De Soto Beach

Date Posted:09/09/2008 10:38:37Copy HTML

tbck- I wear a pouch with just a waist strap. Have stood there and talked to a ranger in his truck and he never made a comment about my suit. Use good judgement and you will be fine. If you try and force yourself ( exhibitionist) on unsuspecting families and push your luck with the rangers you may be asked to leave. I wear sheer pouches and solid ones but understand when to get up and when to stay seated for a few minutes while someone walks by. If you look at the person that will see you and say if that was my mom would I walk by her in this you will usually be okay in your movement decisions. We walk to the north point quite often and I figure if they have passed a bunch of thongs then mine will nt bother them. I do cover myself if I have on my sheer when with my hands as we pass. Not touching but just blocking in front of my suit. Go enjoy and have a great time.
Ex_Member #154

Re:Fort De Soto Beach

Date Posted:09/09/2008 11:22:04Copy HTML

I agree with Bigbuzz, a mesh pouch on a waist sting should work fine -- my blue one does for me at the RI beach I frequent.  I like the mesh for getting an overall tan, and from any distance its see-thru nature is not discernible.  The color of the pouch and the presence of a waist string are enough to make it obvious from any angle that I'm dressed, and I've never been hassled.  From what I've heard about Ft DeSoto, I expect I'll feel fine wearing it there.  Hope my chance comes soon!
JM_Runs #155

Re:Fort De Soto Beach

Date Posted:09/09/2008 03:50:29Copy HTML

Since thonging has been moved back into the more general use part of the park and you will find your self thonging along with more regular families, I would suggest that both side and back straps be somewhat visible, since it's not only the first looks from the rangers you have to pass but also the general public.  You don't really want some one calling the rangers or police on you and starting an incident.

While you maybe able to get away with less, when the rangers are not looking closely, or when they prefer to turn a blind eye and not deal with you, this is less likely when they are responding to an incident report from the general public.  So in the interests of peace, tranquility and general integration with the rest of the park users, I would use a suit that has side and rear straps that are, where practical, visible.
Ex_Member #156

Re:Fort De Soto Beach

Date Posted:09/09/2008 04:13:48Copy HTML

Good points, JM.  Since Ft DeSoto no longer appears to have such an area, a non-see-thru suit with a back strap is pretty much required.  As Mike and I chatted while sunning last week at our RI beach, we agreed our goals were twofold:  make sure we offend no one; and make sure no one has cause to call the cops. 
Ex_Member #157

Re:Fort De Soto Beach

Date Posted:09/26/2008 03:10:07Copy HTML

What a great day at the Fort!!!  I got out about 11 am and the weather was beautiful, light breeze from the NE and temps in the high 70's with clear blue sky and warm sun.  The longer the day got the warmer and nicer the weather got.  Just a few other thongs on the beach and very spread out.  I had on my skinz blue mesh G-String and was sporting a nice all around tan.  I took a few walks North along the shore were the park had put up more bird protection signs.  On my first walk early upon arrival as I was heading back south a county park suv with a few people on board were touring the area, never a problem, they drove up the beach and down and then gone for the day.  Never once saw a ranger in the 4 hours I was there.  As the day went on more bathers came out to the beach but still very quiet and spread out.  On one walk south on the shoreline upon returning back to my towel up by one of the signs a young couple (tourist) had just setup camp not 20 feet from me they must have not seen my stuff because there was noone else anywhere near close by.  I walked up said hello and layed on my towel stomach up.  I heard the young guy say (3 miles of beach and we pick this spot)  a few minutes later they leave there stuff and walk towards the parking area.  Then there parents walk up without the other two and sit on there chairs for a few minutes.  I think they were waiting for me to move.  NO WAY, I was there first.  Anyway, they all picked up and moved 200 yards down the beach.  I stayed a while longer enjoying the sun and came away with an awesome tan!  Planning to be out again on Monday.    G
Ex_Member #158

Re:Fort De Soto Beach

Date Posted:10/06/2008 03:18:57Copy HTML

Great few days last week at the Fort, weather was perfect and the sun was hot.  I was out in a new skinz gstring working on my tan.  Several others were enjoying the day as well.

G
Ex_Member #159

Re:Fort De Soto Beach

Date Posted:10/08/2008 03:31:49Copy HTML

Today was Tuesday the 7th of October and the weather man called for 60% chance of rain, I'm glad I did not pay much attention.  The Fort was perfect, light breeze no waves (Glass) and hot sun with white clouds in the distance.  It was a hot one today! It seems many of use had the same idea as there were at least 12 to 15 other gstrings out today.  I noticed that almost everyone today was in gstrings and not thongs.  Mostly men today but a few ladies (3) in all, it would be nicer if more women would venture to the Fort.  The weather should as good tomorrow so I will be planning another day of sun.

G
bigbuzz #160

Re:Fort De Soto Beach

Date Posted:10/15/2008 01:48:42Copy HTML

Were out this past Sunday. It was beautiful. Plenty of thongers and perfect weather.
bigbuzz #161

Re:Fort De Soto Beach

Date Posted:10/18/2008 01:59:22Copy HTML

Just wanted to let everyone know.  Florida Department of Environmetal Protection is talking about letting Egmont Key go back to the Federal Wildlife Agency to oversee. This is one of 19 State Parks the Governor is looking at giving up maintaining and overseeing. Wonder if that means we may get a clothing optional beach on th west coast of Florida? May want to keep an eye on this. Another one of interest is 3 River State Park. It would go back to Federal Jurisdiction.
briankay #162

Re:Fort De Soto Beach

Date Posted:10/18/2008 02:48:46Copy HTML

This is one of 19 State Parks the Governor is looking at giving up maintaining and overseeing.


Maybe something good can come out of the state being broke!
beachfolks #163

Re:Fort De Soto Beach

Date Posted:10/18/2008 03:49:45Copy HTML

 Where is 3 rivers state park?
bigbuzz #164

Re:Fort De Soto Beach

Date Posted:10/19/2008 11:25:57Copy HTML

It is up along the Georgia border in Sneads on Lake Seminole. 

There was another article about this today in the Tampa Tribune.  They say the Feds may not keep Egmont open. Then who will be watching to see if people are rather comfortable? Somebody will have to patrol it and be able to enforce some type of law and order.

We have noticed the bathroom are getting cleaned again at Fort Desoto. There for about 6 weeks they were getting bad. Hopefully with gas cost going down they will be able to get back to doing some good maintenace at the Fort.
psi1977 #165

Re:Fort De Soto Beach

Date Posted:11/22/2008 03:04:22Copy HTML

Well if they are thinking of doing that at the fort, which is somewhat remote, then is Treasure island and st pete beach next?
piedmont1977 #166

Re:Fort De Soto Beach

Date Posted:11/27/2008 02:07:25Copy HTML

And as slow as the workers are in Pinellas county, painting and constructing all the signs stating that thongs are outlawed, then we are ok for the time being. Geez they have been working on the ramps near Tampa Intl for years. Now is Hillsboro next.
norton1977 #167

Re:Fort De Soto Beach

Date Posted:12/21/2008 03:49:50Copy HTML

I bought my first thong the speedo thong, at a shop that now is closed in Indian Shores, and since then have purchased many from Skinz. And yes I wore a regular speedo last year there, and only two tanga thongs I saw in two days on Clearwater beach, and they were on European girls that I suppose did not no the rules.
bigbuzz #168

Re:Fort De Soto Beach

Date Posted:01/10/2009 01:28:49Copy HTML

It does look as though Saturday is going to be a beautiflu day. Probably not a lot of tourist this weekend. Falls just after the Holiday season and before we have the MLK Holiday. Then we get the Superbowl here in Tampa. So I bet the beach will be slow except for a few regulars.  Hoping we can get out but prior committments may keep us away.
beachfolks #169

Re:Fort De Soto Beach

Date Posted:01/11/2009 12:26:23Copy HTML

 Buzza-We thonged at Venice Turtle beach today. Great Saturday. Sunday promises to be warmer and better.
bigbuzz #170

Re:Fort De Soto Beach

Date Posted:01/13/2009 12:07:48Copy HTML

Just wante everyone to know they have moved a "No Nudity" sign that use to be along a trail they have closed to the beach.  It is just as you com out the walk way to the beach. The funny thing is they only have the one and it is where all the thongers will see it. Kind of funny. But they were roping off more area down around the trees getting ready for breeding season. Which we really have no problem with. But there were no less than 10 of us in thongs the whole time they were driving back and forth. They never stopped or did anything more than wave.
beachfolks #171

Re:Fort De Soto Beach

Date Posted:01/13/2009 01:34:36Copy HTML

 Curious,Curious??? Maybe the park management is replacing their collective stupidity with some sense. They must have unroped some space over the season, because the 2008 bird area had already encompassed most all the treed space, the weedy tidal plain (where the birds really nest-We've watched them from the beach), and lots of the sandy beach(which they still drive their SUV's on, scaring the birds), which the rangers had extended to be a prohibition for tourists shelling out on the sand bars in front of the park.

I can't understand why beachgoers are presumed to destroy birds on the sandy beach, but rangers SUV's don't destroy birds, particularly when there are no birds nesting on that sandy beach.
JM_Runs #172

Re:Fort De Soto Beach

Date Posted:01/14/2009 01:49:41Copy HTML

 Everyone who subscribes to this thread please also read the thread on the new law proposed for Fort De Soto and all the other county parks in Pinellas county.

http://thongboard.aimoo.com/Coastal-beaches-for-thonging-i/Your-Help-Is-needed-Fort-DeSot-1-1244852.html#TopicTop
phoenixget #173

Re:Fort De Soto Beach

Date Posted:02/13/2009 08:15:13Copy HTML

 So any news of the goings-on at the actual beach itself?  Been keeping up with the Help forum, but not much going on in this one...

We haven't been out in a couple of months due to weather and family obligations, but looking forward to getting back out there soon....
bigbuzz #174

Re:Fort De Soto Beach

Date Posted:03/02/2009 01:09:39Copy HTML

I understand thongers are going north again and the rangers are letting them set up their stuff and stay there. Hopefully we will get out next weekend and see what is going on.
beachfolks #175

Re:Fort De Soto Beach

Date Posted:03/02/2009 02:17:23Copy HTML

 Let us know if any of the old island area is still there or washed away. It's stupid how the rangers fenced to protect the island sea oats and for bird nesting ground, but removed the trees and let the ocean wash the entire shore away.
Beachlover492000 #176

Re:Fort De Soto Beach

Date Posted:03/04/2009 02:56:52Copy HTML

Yes, I agree, beachfolks. The last time I walked over by the extreme north end of the beach, which used to be thong area, I was amazed that the trees had been destroyed and the dunes that were once there were almost all gone. I have never understood the tree policy at Ft. DeSoto. They take down good shade trees, sometimes replace them with palms that often die because of a lack of attention, and then allow the gulf to wash out the sand. Anyone who thinks that sea oats alone can save the beach is mentally challenged.

Truly those who practice the environmental religion. have a unique way of "preserving" beach sand.

As for the area, be forwared that space is wide open and there is no place to really be discrete If a bunch of kids or a family sets up in that area, there is no way that you can be out of way of sight. It is now a wide flat area that has unobstucted views from both sides of the peninsula.
beachfolks #177

Re:Fort De Soto Beach

Date Posted:03/04/2009 05:07:36Copy HTML

 49200--Gee, I'm glad to know there is still a peninsula left
adware1977 #178

Re:Fort De Soto Beach

Date Posted:03/04/2009 05:27:47Copy HTML

And you cannot swim there anymore. I did wear a thong in the north area, and i was not at the fort for 2 years, and the signs that the beach is closed is terrible.
Maxtlatl #179

Re:Fort De Soto Beach

Date Posted:03/04/2009 07:47:08Copy HTML

Beachlover492000 wrote "Truly those who practice the environmental religion. have a unique way of "preserving" beach sand."

You're assuming that the intent of the rangers is practicing environmentalism. From my experience, all too many are just toadies for those in charge, and use the environmentalist excuse to go after those they do not approve of.

Somehow it's always the section of beach that thong-wearers (or nudists) use that get targeted for "renewal" or "nesting grounds". That's not an accident.
Ex_Member #180

Re:Fort De Soto Beach

Date Posted:03/04/2009 09:20:26Copy HTML

Meanwhile, Cuba is going to be opening up to travel from the US and I bet they won't be trying to run off the thongers!

http://www2.tbo.com/content/2009/mar/04/pinellas-tourism-officials-expect-cuba-be-competit/news-breaking/

All that will be left here in Pinellas county will be the people who complain to the authorities about unsavory things going on at the beach but never get their fat behinds off the couch to ever go there.
Ex_Member #181

Re:Fort De Soto Beach

Date Posted:03/05/2009 03:55:17Copy HTML

Okay - who has been to Fort lately???
I live in St Pete and I have not been out there since October.  Not my kind beach weather when it's not 80+ everyday.  What is the deal with the west beach area, is it closed off all together?  I don't see were there was ever a designated thong beach so if the rest of the island is still open to the public for going to the beach then I will just have to go to a different section of the beach, it all works for me, I will wear a thong or g-string to what ever beach I want until I see a law passed that says I can not, then I will just have to go else where. I pay taxes in Pinellas and I will use the beach as I want.

Ski
bigbuzz #182

Re:Fort De Soto Beach

Date Posted:03/12/2009 12:11:19Copy HTML

We were out this past Sunday.  There were plenty of thongs on the beach. They have actually opened a large area to the north up for setting up and laying out.  Did hear the rangers did ask one person, that usually wears a shell, to please not wear it any more. The only person the ranger stopped and spoke with were the idiots that cannot readt the signs. Where it says conservation area it means conservation area. It does not mean lay your stuff that high along the beach. I got into it with two idiots that refused to move their stuff. The rangers are being cool and allowing us to have most of the beach back. We need to work with the rangers and help police ourselves. If we stay cool they will stay cool. The ranger saw me and knew my swimsuit had no bottom strap but never even flinched about it. I believe the other issue may be dead in the water as it had only gotten to the Fort Desoto committee. I think it got nixed in these trying times.

Please just be respectful and play by the rules. If we do that we will keep this wonderful beach. If we do not and/or we let a few ruin it for all of us it is our own fault. We hope to get out again sometime next week. This time during the week to see what type of crowd is out then. We are coming up on Spring Break for a lot of kids that will be down visiting grandparents. We need to respect that and be a little discreet the next 5 to 6 weeks. All worth keeping the beach the way it is now.
beachstrapguy #183

Re:Fort De Soto Beach

Date Posted:03/12/2009 05:40:22Copy HTML

When you guys speak of the north end where there are several thongers, are you referring to:
    1) The area north of the large parking lot up toward the inlet?
or 2) The area just north of the fort and concessions stand near the point where you can see the large public beach  across the shallow water?
I plan to be there on Saturday and would like to get to the best area the first time that I attempt the hike.
Thanks 
bigbuzz #184

Re:Fort De Soto Beach

Date Posted:03/13/2009 10:08:22Copy HTML

Beach- The area north of the Fort. I understand up around the inlet is good as well. But the one most go to on here is the one north of the concession stand. Just a gentle warning here. If you are a male that will be going out alone you may encounter some gay males flirting or try ing to sit closer to you than you would like. Not saying it happens a lot but it does happen. Just let them know you are straight and they will usually leave you alone.

beachstrapguy #185

Re:Fort De Soto Beach

Date Posted:03/13/2009 09:34:16Copy HTML

Thanks for the clarification.  I'm familiar with both areas, but it just seemed that all of a sudden you were talking about way up north. I never really liked that area as much.  Too many older uptight walkers.
Never had any other guys bother me other than walking by several times and looking.
Looks and chatting are fine with me.   
Ex_Member #186

Re:Fort De Soto Beach

Date Posted:03/22/2009 03:16:19Copy HTML

Hi guys, i just bought a new bikini, its a skimpy rio style, pretty much turns into a thong anytime i move. Really wanted to layout at the fort on monday. Do i have to be worried about getting arrested or ticketed?. From what ive been reading its starting to concern me. I went to the fort last year and felt really at home, because there were so many people thonging  just like me, men and women, i t was great. Has it really changed? I dont bother anybody, i just layout tan and leave.
beachfolks #187

Re:Fort De Soto Beach

Date Posted:03/22/2009 02:49:39Copy HTML

 Steeltown-Still lots of thongers at DeSoto.Pinellas has not proceeded with their ordinance to ban thongs giving us some hope that the many protests have been effective. We cannot confirm success, but enjoy the thonging for now.
1Tinysuit #188

Re:Fort De Soto Beach

Date Posted:03/23/2009 12:35:08Copy HTML

It was a great day for thonging and stringing at the Fort today. My wife and I were ther from 10-2pm. She wore an orange thong from skinz and I wore a cutaway black thong. I spoted on my walk 20-24 people wearing G-strings/thongs 4 couples and then the rest guys. Weather was great and the water is starting to get real nice. Overall an excellent day and the thongers were well represented there.  
1Tinysuit #189

Re:Fort De Soto Beach

Date Posted:04/11/2009 03:12:19Copy HTML

Wife and I went yesterday and enjoyed the great cooler weather. We both were sporting matching camo. thongs. Saw about 10 other guys in thongs and G's but no women other than my wife. Cant complain though, anytime you can  enjoy a very sexy relaxing day at the beach with my girl.
beachfolks #190

Re:Fort De Soto Beach

Date Posted:04/24/2009 10:09:28Copy HTML

Excellent beaching weather at DeSoto for the past week and also the 10 day forecast. There has been a large number of local and tourist couples with one or both thonging, topless, north of the fort, in addition to always a few bare men at the north end which is still blocked off at the inlet to prevent walkers from North beach.

The Pinellas rangers are appearing to be more tolerant of the thongs, but maybe that is just my impression.  This is a good sign, but the Pinellas rangers are still very intrusive with beachgoers, repeatedly demanding beachgoers move farther away from their silly bird area fence which is now made of plastic pipe and twine.  The significance of distance between the beachgoers and the bird fence is beyond explanation considering the rangers drive right up to the fence. They are territorial and act as if this is their personal space.
bigbuzz #191

Re:Fort De Soto Beach

Date Posted:04/26/2009 04:00:38Copy HTML

We were out there the day a lot of that new fencing went a few weeks ago. The park rangers had nothing to do with it. It was Florida Fish and Wildlife officers. The ones with badges and guns. Legal cops. The rnagers are just told to enforce their rules. I have no problem with giving the endangered Oyster catchers space to roost. The rangers vehicles getting close does upset me but less than idoits that have to walk through them or up in the dunes.

Some people, I guess, just hate the rangers and always will. They have a job to do just like we all do or have had in the past.
beachfolks #192

Re:Fort De Soto Beach

Date Posted:04/27/2009 01:04:42Copy HTML

 Buzz-The oystercatchers still seem OK. Today was great and lots of thongers were out. The 2 women next to us on the beach had placed their floats a foot under the fence to hold the floats against the wind. The ranger stopped and told them to get the floats out from under the fence. The women left soon afterward. People don't go to the beach to be hassled-by anyone. It's not just us, no one likes blind, stupid authority.
bigbuzz #193

Re:Fort De Soto Beach

Date Posted:04/28/2009 12:58:57Copy HTML

Beach- I understand that. But why make rules and lay boundaries if you are not going to enforce them. Bet you would not like your neighbors spraying weed killer a foot onto your property. It's only a foot. 

I am just glad to see the "Nate" issue appears to have gone away for a while. That is good. Now we just have abide by rules and maybe they will leave us alone.
beachfolks #194

Re:Fort De Soto Beach

Date Posted:04/28/2009 05:38:06Copy HTML

As a Pinellas taxpayer, I don't feel Pinellas County is getting any value for the wages of these rangers and they are continuing to annoy lots of park visitors for no cause.  This string fence is a half mile from nowhere and they hassle beachgoers about really insignificant violations. The violations are insignificant and the super-rigid enforcement we see on an ongoing basis is way out of line. Still, they are allowing some comically big violations- we see lots of people coming in and out right through the forbidden "bird" areas. A big family carried in a large party tent through the bird area and set it up on the beach, had their party, later set it over the fence into the bird area after the ranger had left.
JM_Runs #195

Re:Fort De Soto Beach

Date Posted:04/28/2009 12:22:33Copy HTML

 Maybe incidents like that are opportunities for you to have a better relationship with the rangers.  If you have their cell numbers or the park office number you can call them back to ticket the people when real violations occur. If you are seen by them as trying to help the park, not just as unhappy old men who are always grumbling about their enforcement, maybe they would ease up a bit on you.

Funny story, not directly related but about seeing the opportunity.  My nemesis is a women who is a full on criminal mastermind. I was attempting to get both her and her partner in crime subpoenaed to appear at a hearing last year. Her partner, a slippery bastard, evaded service.
He and my arch nemesis had a falling out. She pressed charges against him. I called him up and offered a way to disprove the charges.  I even escorted him to the Sheriff's department, and in a bit of luck, in disproving the charges he proved up five felony counts against her. Politics makes for strange bed fellows.  By the time we left the county, some two hours later, we had met the detective, been interviewed by the DA and as we pulled out the detective was already out taking statements. I expect formal charges on that matter to be filed this week. 

While this incident had nothing to do with thonging it is an example of how to make friends and influence people, even people you don't much like, even people who have in the past worked against you.  If you help them further their goals they see you as an ally, and sometimes even share confidences with you.

Which reminds me, There is a group called Friends of Fort Desoto Park.  I don't know if it still functions, but if I lived there I would do just what I have done with my home owners association, get on the board.  Even thouugh some people have problems with my old falling down house, that needs paint, and my hedges are enormesly over grown, I am almost immune to complaiints by the HOA becuase I am on the board, most of the board members like me, and they don't eat their own.

I think the best stratagy for thongers at Fort Desoto is to become ACTIVE members of the friends group. Get involved with things like the voenter Sea Oats planting.  Here is a page about that from the Friends group >>  http://www.fortdesoto.com/seaoats1.php

I don't know how active the friends group is, or how often it meets, or even if it is still around, but I do know that if I lived ther I would join and try to work within it, mabe even volenteering to be a board member.  Sometimes what a volenteer orgnization needs is an injection of new blood. Often the young turks who make up the new blood take over and push the orgninzaion in a diffrent direction than the old guard.

I am active in several diffrent civil orgnizatons in my home town, and have on various occaions been on advisory boards.  As you know I regularly run down the beach in a thong, but that small trangression is overlooked when I take an active roll in the comunity.  My home owners meeting took place last month, in a back room of a local resturant.  As I was leaving, walking out,  I  was called out to by two people eating dinner.  It was my city comishoner and my county comishioner. One said "How are you? I have not seen you out running latly, are you doing ok?" 

On another occasion I was at the beach right by the road, wearing a very small thong and talking to a friend.  Two police men were at the junction on the road. One waved me over to him, in that way that police men have of asserting athority, by pointing at you and indicating you should walk over to them.  I walked over and my friend watched and attempted to figure out the discussion from a distance. 

There was obviously some disagreement and I was waving my arms.  In about ten minutes I returned to my friend who asked "Did he give you a ticket?" 
I replied  "what for?" 
"For wearing a thong!" 
"No that subject did not come up."  My friend was incredulous.  He wanted to know what were we arguing about.  I asked why he thought  we were arguing and he said because both of you were waving you hands about.  I explained that we were not arguing, we were discussing how we were going to handle and re-route traffic for a running race next month.

Get involved. Quietly become the power behind the throne.  you will be amazed at the friends and influence you can have when you are perceived as being a valuable member of the community or have interests in common so you become a valuable Allie. 

" Five, Five felony counts, all pressed by her partner in crime.  That will put the cat among the pidgins, and he rubs his hands with glee."
beachfolks #196

Re:Fort De Soto Beach

Date Posted:04/28/2009 02:30:56Copy HTML

JM-How fortunate you asked.
"If you have their cell numbers or the park office number you can call them back to ticket the people when real violations occur. If you are seen by them as trying to help the park, not just as unhappy old men who are always grumbling about their enforcement, maybe they would ease up a bit on you"

The very point or putting the cell phone #s on signs was brought up at the January meeting of the Pinellas Parks Advisory Board meeting with Mr.Cozzie and passed 100% by voice vote, but has not been implemented. Apparently the Ranger cell phones are a secret. Mr.Cozzie says their switchboard is inundated all the time(it is). There are lots of new "keep out" and "no nudity" signs, but no cell phone numbers. As best we can determine the "friends" organization is non functional, though we haven't looked lately.  Yes, Pinellas (county) is an 800lb gorilla which doesn't want any outside input.

There are now 3 townsites/groups trying seriously to cecede from Clearwater (city) which is the same management group/style as Pinellas.

143741 #197

Re:Fort De Soto Beach

Date Posted:04/28/2009 07:51:27Copy HTML

Being friends with the rangers is good in some ways, but like everything else, people in general have interpretations of all kinds of things. I just wish that, some of the rangers that are opposed to the rules set by the croony board, to speak up. No job is that important, even in this economy.
JM_Runs #198

Re:Fort De Soto Beach

Date Posted:04/29/2009 03:48:00Copy HTML

Their job is to follow the rules and directions of their management. Suggesting that they should stand up against their management is a falure to understand how to get things done. Its you job as a citizen to sneak in there and change the management at the top, or intercede in the middle on some advisory board, which in turn changes the policy. 

You cant get mad at the rangers for not disobeying their superiors and it is arrogant for you to suggest that following your suggestions is more important than a job. A job is very important to some people. My good friend lost her job and then lost her home of 15 years. She and her two teenage kids have moved in to her sisters tiny apartment, which has forced the eldest one to move out a little prematurely. Her family is split up and impoverished.  You may not have to work, or have skills where you can be employed anywhere, but there are a lot of people in entry level jobs who don't have many other options.  If they did they probably would not still be in entry level jobs.

I get so fed up of people blaming the staff, when they are share holders in the company. If you don't like the managing board change them. There are so few people in America that are prepared to get involved in their community that many positions on local boards and groups go unfilled or uncontested.  If no one else runs for a position it leaves gaps that those who think they are 'ordained' to tell the rest of the world how to live, who just slip in.  Quit whining. Get off your buts and get involved in your communities. Learn how to work with others. Find some common ground and work from there.
143741 #199

Re:Fort De Soto Beach

Date Posted:04/29/2009 10:26:42Copy HTML

JM  You usually are right on, but this time you are not. I have a Bachelors Degree, and have many skills, but there are too many sucking up to bosses, that do not have the interests of the workers , I say the workers, who have made them prosper.
Ex_Member #200

Re:Fort De Soto Beach

Date Posted:04/29/2009 01:39:45Copy HTML

Since when is parking at the Fort for the west beach a problem?  I was out there yesterday and the place was full of cars. Good things never last - times when the Fort was quiet and not so crowded. It seems the beach is getting smaller with the  bird roped off area and more and more none thongers using the beach were it use to be very quiet.  Yesterday I stayed way south of the roped off area down were you can still setup near the dunes.  It seemed to be more quiet and the few that were near by were women by themselves and a few older couples.  After spending a few hours on the west beach I ventured north on the other side of the lagoon and noticed that the roped off area goes a few hundred yards towards the public lifeguard area.  It seems the birds have really taken over. 

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