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JM_Runs

Date Posted:02/18/2019 08:16:18Copy HTML

I have asked you all to be patent with the upgrade.  Normally Aimoo eventually fixes everything that matters. It turns out this was NOT an upgrade but a rewrite of the board code. 
Many features have been restored, BUT we still cannot see the pictures posted by other users on their personal profiles.

Since this forum is setup to be a text based forum without images in the postings,

having the ability to post pictures in the Albums function in our personal profiles, and let others see them, is, for us, rather important. 


There is a message board setup for help for Aimoo forum admins and users.
I have, from time to time, posted requests for them to fix things. 

Mostly things that were functional problems, and that I thought other moderators and users would not address succinctly.  


When I thought a problem was Aimoo system wide, and a lot of other users would bring the issue up, I did not bother to add my two-cents, because others would champion that cause. 


However, when access to members personal picture Albums was not restored, 

and no one else on the moderator help forum was mentioning it I did.

Now I am told it has not been coded yet, (that was obvious), and is not a priority.
It seems they may never get around to it, without a bit more prompting. This is where you all come in. 


I think it is time they got this fixed. There are two ways to make it an issue:


- The first is by creating a TICKET, (see the RED menu item at the top of the page to the left of the TODAY option.)

- The second is by posting on the "Aimoo Help Forum"  There are two sections "Help for Owners and Admins" and "Help for Members".   http://aimoohelpforum.aimoo.com/ 


Please use both to help esclate this issue. 

Try to keep your suggestions, requests or complaints to a single subject: 
In this case the inability to see the pictures in the ALBUM's on other members profiles / the inability for you to share your pictures with others by posting them in the ALBUM your profile.


Problems with uploads, downloads, editing etc should be a separate subject.  


I have no idea how Aimoo assigns priorty and urgency to bug fixes.  So now I need help from you all.  Time to make a little noise. 
Everyone needs to use the two methods "Ticket" and "Help Forum" to report the problem of not being able to see pictures in another users profile ALBUM.  

I am using the word ALBUM because that is what it is called as the menu option on your personal profile menu.  

csnipwb #1

Re:Inability to see pictures that other members have posted in their profile ALBUMS.

Date Posted:02/18/2019 11:37:47Copy HTML

For us that are not computer wizzes where do we find the "ULR including Bug" address at? You can not submit a ticket without it. Thanks, And yes they are mighty slow about fixing things on their own forum!
johny_b #2

Re:Inability to see pictures that other members have posted in their profile ALBUMS.

Date Posted:02/20/2019 04:57:33Copy HTML

im still having trouble seeing my pics and won't let me upload new ones, are my pics to graphic, i can take them off
hunnger #3

Re:Inability to see pictures that other members have posted in their profile ALBUMS.

Date Posted:02/20/2019 05:10:05Copy HTML

I think it's a big waste of time trying to polish this Aimoo turd. As a web application developer with 20+ years of experience, I can tell this platform will never have the modern features of the other forum platforms currently available. There are plenty of IT "geeks" on this forum besides myself who'd be more than happy to pitch in and migrate this forum. And frankly, many of us are not particularly keen on having a China-based company running software on our computers (via our web browsers). They've been given more than ample time to fix the issues. There's little reason to think they'll magically decide to suddenly care. Time to move to another platform (e.g. see http://discourse.org which could easily be hosted on a Digital Ocean droplet for $20/mo)
luvnmythong #4

Re:Inability to see pictures that other members have posted in their profile ALBUMS.

Date Posted:02/20/2019 05:40:55Copy HTML

While I understand the frustration of not being able to view pictures, my biggest frustration comes from not being able to send and receive personal messages from others. I have many friends on this site, but unless they are someone that I still have messages in my "sent" box or "in box, that was there prior to the changes for this site, I cannot communicate with anyone. I would like to see this fixed, in addition to the ability to post pictures and view pictures. For those of you who have been on this board for a long time, you might remember when Aimoo would periodically delete pictures that they considered to be obscene. Perhaps they would rather we just go away and they wouldn't have to deal with our photographs, which they probably do view as lewd and obscene.
J_R_365 #5

Re:Inability to see pictures that other members have posted in their profile ALBUMS.

Date Posted:02/20/2019 03:40:13Copy HTML

I agree, it's time to move on from Aimoo.
chad_nw_oh #6

Re:Inability to see pictures that other members have posted in their profile ALBUMS.

Date Posted:02/21/2019 12:37:31Copy HTML

I second (third? forth? fifth?...) the idea of moving on from this horrible site. Domain registration is about $30 per year (with private registration information). Very possible to find it cheaper. Webhosting varies greatly. Typically $100-150 a year for basic hosting which will likely be fine for us since this is primarily a forum which is fairly lightweight on resources. If more performance is needed, the cost would go up. I looked and my hosting company would likely not permit this site. They are strict on adult themed stuff. There are many webhosts out there who are friendly for adult themed (but not necessarily porn) sites. In my opinion adult themed would be the way to go so there's no questions from the webhost the first time someone posts a pics from a nude beach. Forum software varies, but PhpBB is FREE with no restrictions. You are on your own with managing it but there are TONS of online guides..It's not hard once it's going. I am knowledgeable in it and with it's popularity, I'm sure there's at least 1 other person on here who is too. We can set our own security and privacy. Private messaging is a standard feature. There are photo albums available as a plugin (also free). Photos can also be posted directly in forum threads (if permitted by a setting). There are paid forum packages (like vbulletin) that offer support and help, but its an added cost and they may have restrictions on how their software is used. As for existing data on here. Another site I was active on did something similar and cut and pasted everything into a 'archives' forum (view a page of (usually several dozen) posts, highlight all text, copy, paste into another thread). Still a bit of work but manageable, and the pasted content is still searchable and post dates are not lost. With a little work the pasted data could at a later time be converted back into actual posts, but likely wont be needed. Another advantage of phpbb is the data can be backed up and imported into another forum system if there's another move down the road! There are programs that can automatically scan and grab the contents of a site (this forum), but some admin's block this activity. With something like the above, we'd have full control of our site and can make our own rules. We'd have our own domain name too. If donations happen on a semi regular basis, then on-site advertising may not be needed. Most forum sites can give different permissions to groups of users, so a premium or upgrade accounts could be created with different permissions as another way to pay the bills. My 3 cents....
hunnger #7

Re:Inability to see pictures that other members have posted in their profile ALBUMS.

Date Posted:02/21/2019 04:56:14Copy HTML

I've hosted and managed several different forums using different forum software over the years. phpBB is very old and now only rarely receives updates. It also requires more resources to run effectively when compared to modern forum software. I already host a bunch of apps on NodeChef, and spinning up a new forum would take me less than 10 minutes: https://www.nodechef.com/discourse-hosting NodeChef's Acceptable Use Policy is not at all restrictive, so no issues there: https://www.nodechef.com/terms Migrating the accounts, photos and posts would of course be a whole other matter.
Cloydene #8

Re:Inability to see pictures that other members have posted in their profile ALBUMS.

Date Posted:02/21/2019 05:26:52Copy HTML

I feel the same frustration as other forum members of not being able to see pics of fellow thong wearers. It's a big reason I seldom visit this board compared to the past. Even the meet-up section is a ghost town with replies and responses, but I know I'm not alone in that respect.
tiggerix #9

Re:Inability to see pictures that other members have posted in their profile ALBUMS.

Date Posted:02/21/2019 11:26:15Copy HTML

Well, I have tried to submit a ticket for the ALBUM issue, but it wants an image uploading - which isn't the issue and I don't have a suitable image unless I screen shot my page? This is a great forum in terms of content and discus, but I know we all want the functionality that was lost in the 'upgrade'. I think that a move to another platform would be great if this one is not going to get sorted - that may mean us paying a few $ each to pay the running / hosting costs.
navythong #10

Re:Inability to see pictures that other members have posted in their profile ALBUMS.

Date Posted:02/21/2019 06:06:59Copy HTML

The same overhere. I visit the board less then before the last migration. It's part of the fun checking out some member pictures to see which suits and colors look good. No problem to pay a few $ to pay the hosting of the board! Better to pay a little and improve functionality then have a free very limited board
JM_Runs #11

Re:Inability to see pictures that other members have posted in their profile ALBUMS.

Date Posted:02/21/2019 08:15:53Copy HTML

hunger's post mentions the crux of the issue, migrating the content and users. I have looked into this before. There are a few issues to consider for migration. The first is to maintain a forum that is readable: To that end it means control over type font and colors. The philosophy behind this board, that has made it a 15 year success it is simple: It is what people say that matters, not the pictures. For that reason our board prevents posting of images in threads, otherwise it will quickly revert to a gay boys "look at me site". Nothing wrong with being gay, but there are plenty of websites that do dating or picture posts better. For that just start a personal instagram account. The second is probably the simplest, scraping the content of the existing site, formatting for the new site, and moving the posts. The third is more complex, duplicating the user accounts, so the content of posts are tied to the right usernames. For this we need direct read-right access to the data tables on the new platform. The last is developing code or a script that would work with this site for providing links to the new site login and new site password for their migrated account. Over the years I have had some in person casual discussions about migration at SunSplash. I know that members want to help. To some extent my prior reluctance to fully explore alternatives and a full migration was due to my personal workload and desire for long term form consistency. The Aimoo platform has not been perfect, but has been workable. Some time in my life has freed up. So if you have the skills and want to help or have suggestions about the choice of software, hosting platform, or have scripting skills drop me a Private Message. It is time I put together a migration plan and some of you have better skills and knowledge than me.
JSJax #12

Re:Inability to see pictures that other members have posted in their profile ALBUMS.

Date Posted:02/21/2019 11:27:39Copy HTML

The goals listed here are quite ambitious. Some informed considerations that I haven't seen mentioned: 1. Any site worth it's salt is going to have data mining detection; any sort of data scrape will need to take this into consideration and rate accordingly. This isn't a show-stopper, but it also isn't insignificant given the massive amount of data this forum contains. 2. Any sort of automated account migration is going to need more than RW permissions on a new platform, it's also likely going to need to read Aimoo's account database to acquire emails and, possibly, passwords. Migrating usernames only and broadcasting a blanket one-time password is insecure, as it allows anyone who knows the password to hijack as many accounts as they want. So you're left with exporting the password database, or developing a means to create and communicate individual passwords to individual users. Considering that Aimoo hosts many more users than just us, I wouldn't expect that they'll just let someone read their account database because they asked nicely. You also need to consider that some people may not WANT an account in their name set up elsewhere. 3. Instructing Aimoo users to manually create an account on the new platform seems much more plausible, though I suspect it would make linking migrated content to users quite difficult. 4. I'm not a lawyer, but I suspect that, unless you're completely unconcerned with running afoul of digital copyright law, ownership of the existing data needs to be considered. Without having read the T's & C's, I would guess that Aimoo retains ownership of the data as it is stored on their hard drives. 5. Lastly, you'll need a plan for the actual migration plan that reflects your tolerance for active-active type situations. Assuming the goal is zero data loss (and I'm just spitballing here), you're looking at, in order: - Create the new platform and get users into it, without allowing posts. - Shut off write access to the Aimoo forum once user setup is complete. - Data export and import from beginning to end. Starting early risks missing data in the scrape. - Link old forum data to new forum users, if possible. - Allow posts on the new forum. Sorry if I'm being a downer. I understand the dissatisfaction with Aimoo, especially lately, but we can't just yank everything we want out without considering potential security and legal issues.
sandrhymes #13

Re:Inability to see pictures that other members have posted in their profile ALBUMS.

Date Posted:02/21/2019 11:36:10Copy HTML

There are quite a few providers of forum software out there.  Some of them like phBB, MyBB and Joomla are free and some of them like Discourse which was mentioned earlier, you pay for.  I think most of them offer the same basic features, although some of them those features are offered in a more robust and viewer friendly way with better eye candy.  I have had some exerience with using a Wordpress as a platform for website customization, and using one of their forum plugins (I am not a developer, but I did a lot of the spec writing, setup and moderating).  While I am not going to say that Wordpress software is better than some of the other options mentioned, it is free, they do have a plethora of plugins (probably more than any other offering) and have a lot of flexibility with their plugin archeticture format which can be used to enhance a forum.  The admin is also fairly easy to master.  While this forum's needs are fairly basic - categories, posts and replys, I do think the ability to offer a customized theme that is attractive with robust profiles that include image galleries and the abiility to find and connect with other members is probably the most important extra.  Most of the forum offerings out there can do this, but the ability to do this with modern, not outdated software and stylihg will help to attract and keep more users to the board.


One of the items mentioned in considering a move is the cost of a new option.  Amioo is cheap compared to other options out there, and the result of that is apparent.  In the past I have contributed to the maintenance of the board and am willing to do so again, but one item I think which should be considered is to have a platform that can offer paid subscriptions as an option.  With Wordpress there is a plugin that allows you to receive payments through PayPal.  I don't know how many active users there are annually, and how many of those stay longer than a year, but the ability to offer a 1 year free trial ( or 1 month, or 6 months, or even 2 years) and then afterwards charge (IDK), $0.25, or $0.50 or a $1.00 annually would be a no brainer to most of us, and I think the regular users would be happy to contribute.  This would let JM Runs not have to perodically beg for contributions and the amount needed to run the website yearly is so small it should not distress even the most miserly visitor if they find the board useful.  I also don't think this would drive anyone away who wants to view and/or participate, but feels they can't afford it or just won't pay; they could just re-register under a different name and continue on again during their next free trial peroid.  Then, if a subscription model dosen't prove to work out, just go back to the old free format again (with that model, it dosen't matter how many or how few users there are).

hunnger #14

Re:Inability to see pictures that other members have posted in their profile ALBUMS.

Date Posted:02/22/2019 05:35:41Copy HTML

A few corrections: Discourse is 100% free open source software. Only the hosting needs to be paid for, which starts at $10/mo. Also, it has scripts available to import plain CSV files exported/created from other forum platforms, so no need for direct DB access. Also, I currently host ~25 Wordpress websites. Wordpress is basically a blogging platform, and not a good choice for running a discussion forum. As JSJax mentioned, given all the potential difficulties, perhaps it's best thing is to simply start a new forum from scratch, leave this forum as-is, but read-only, with a pinned message at the top redirecting visitors to the new forum. I have no problem with JS_Runs continuing to moderate and manage the forum. If we can decide on a domain name (that's available) I can have all this running by Monday...
jn9195 #15

Re:Inability to see pictures that other members have posted in their profile ALBUMS.

Date Posted:02/22/2019 03:11:45Copy HTML

I submitted a ticket, hopefully it helps.
JM_Runs #16

Re:Inability to see pictures that other members have posted in their profile ALBUMS.

Date Posted:02/22/2019 04:56:26Copy HTML

Hunnger, - I understand we can have a new site running in seconds, but having thought about this a lot, and discussed it with others, the elegant move is to migrate both posts and users. What really makes this board valuable to people is not the latest brands, but the history of thonging in a particular location.
Please cutback on starting new threads and try to post messages as a reply to existing threads.
If you want to cut and paste from your word processor do not do it directly.
First paste it into notepad or other basic ascii editor so that the formatting codes are removed, then cut again. This will give you clean posts.
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