I know you guys like to push the limit but I am a little worried that you are getting into the relm of exhibitionistic flashing.   We don't need arrests. The 10 men arrested in Naples FL will make the presents of "the men in the dunes" a hot button for a while. 

I suggest that instead of going to simi-transparent and pushing the limit that way, you may want to think about how you can push the limit by going more places in your thongs.  Regualr thongs on more beaches or more public sections of the beaches. 

I recently received a black mesh gstring from dore's which I have worn constanly (i live on a small sail boat curently in the french west indias) .  While the barely 2 square inches of fabric is tan thru it is not really see thru.  I ordered this gstring to replace a soild yellow gstring also from dore's that I had completly wore out.  The soild yellow gstring was just as small as the black mesh but was totelly see thru when wet.  And when it got older  from being worn and bleached by the sun was even see thru when dry.  I have worn condoms that covered up more than that yellow gstring did.  The black mesh gstring is not even see thru when wet and is the best $13.50 I ever spent. The best thing about the black mesh is that it does not retain water and therefore is not wet all the time. When I swim back to my sailboat it is dry within minutes.  And since this is all i wear all I have to do is wash it out in a little water and woolite.  A great advantage for someone living on a small sailboat  that carries very little water.   I prefer to swim, run, sail, and snorkle in the nude.  But when this is not possiple i wear a gstring almost daily.  I have received nothing but compliments about it and get asked almost daily where I got it.  It is true I have not been in the USA for about 2 years but I still dont feel like I am pushing the limits just because the fabric is very thin mesh.  I wear this black mesh gstring daily to run on the beach where there are lots of familys with small children and no one have said any thing to me.  So if you want to wear a tan thru meash gstring get it in black.

I have a couple of tan thru suits from Parr. Although tan through they are really no see thru, they don't tan thru that well either as I have worn them off and on and still do not seem to get very tan under the suit.

I also agree with JM that pushing the envelope too far is counter productive. My wife and I and the friends we socialize with enjoy our freedom to wear minimal swimwear but try not to make a scene or force it upon anyone. We have also weeded out a few that seemed to think that wearing very small swimwear was suggesting something beyond just that. Those that have acted in ways that make the rest of us uncomfortable just are not asked to the next pool party or lake gathering. To have assembled a group of people like the ones that we spend time with and still have the comfort level we do is very rare and Jean and are are appreciative and protctive of that situation. By pushing the issue too far, the backlash ,I feel , effects everybody.

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GString1What is the model of the Dore Black Mesh G-String you recommend?

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The model on Ebay is called "Micro string blk woven mesh" size medium for $13.50.

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gstring1 When I read your post is sounds like th black mesh material is not see trhough at all. Am I reading this correct? Is the mesh coarse enough to actually be tan thu?

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I think I'll go ahead and order one of those strapless pouches from Dore. It looks like I will have to print their order form and mail it in. They don't really have online ordering.

Since I plan on wearing this to the Pinellas public beaches, mainly Ft Desoto, I will want to request an opaque material. Do they have no tan-through material, other than the micro mesh? I'd be a bit concerned about their mesh not being quite enough to keep it legal, if a ranger or deputy really wanted to take a close look.

Whenever a ranger asked about a butt strap, were they really just asking if you were wearing a thong since they couldn't see one? One time when I was wearing a homemade G-string to Ft Desoto - East Beach, a ranger asked me if I was wearing a thong from inside his truck, because he couldn't see any rear strap or string. When I pulled up the string and said yes, he nodded his head approvingly and drove off. This one ranger in particular - Peterson used to be a well known S.O.B. to people who choose to go frontally nude in the park. They also had a policy of  "trespassing" an offender from the park for a year, if cited for nudity. One Sheriff's deputy - Wilson, once warned nudists, it would be for life.

I thought you might want to know, Ft Desoto has recently closed off the North Beach dunes to allow them to recover from damage due to too much pedestrian traffic.

Here's the exact ordinance for Pinellas county parks:

Chapter 90 (Parks and Recreation), Sec 90-2 (Definitions)

Beachfolks,
Is the recommended material called "black mesh"? I joined that Dore yahoo group, just so I could see some examples, but they're taking too long to approve my membership, after I had to jump through a bunch of hoops to join. At least this time, I was able to upload my required photo. I also sent an email to Dore inquiring about ordering procedures, but she hasn't replied back yet. Does the less transparant black woven mesh allow tanning as well as the black mesh?

Which beach in Ft Desoto do you go to? The section of beach just before North Beach always has way too many people with little kids. I wonder if the Sheriff has ever questioned anybody about pouches. County park Rangers don't have power of arrest. The main beach south of North Beach seems to be the least crowded.

Fred

Fred,

Since they closed the dune areas at the extreme end of North Beach, the main thong area is probably where you described it. It is just up from the south end of the North Beach Parking lot. There is a inlet that separates that part of the North Beach that is served by the parking lots. The beach that is on the other side of that inlet is where the thong area is. You can park on the grass in front of the ditch and walk to it.

I've never seen the rangers or the sheriffs both any one except those who go nude or those who walk or set up inside of the dune restricted areas. If you go on the dunes the best you can hope for is a warning. I've seen some people get a ticket.

After having jumped through all the hoops to join the Dore Yahoo group, I was unable find any photos of the strapless pouch. I found out nobody has any such photos. I would really like to see what the black mesh pouch looks like before I order one. On the recommended "black mesh" about how big are the holes? In millimeters? About as big-around to stick strand of thin spagetti through?

What if a deputy decides to take a closer look for opaqueness? Apparently, nobody has yet been questioned by the Sheriff regarding the wearing of the pouch, just Park Rangers who have no power of arrest. Cops are pretty sharp and usually notice details that most people miss. They are able to pick out nudists from 2 miles away from a boat offshore.

I'm disappointed Dore lacks a toll-free phone number. I have always felt this is essential for running a mail order business. Maybe she's operating on a shoestring budget. When I do mail in my order, how long does it usually take to receive the merchandise?
Fred

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Holes are so tiny you could not even get a pin through them.  I have been around partkrangers in the BVIs and not one said a word to me about it inside the park.  This was on St johns island where there is a lot of familys and children around.  As a mater of fact one talked to me for about an hour, about sailing etc.. He of course was in full uniform and I had nothing on but my litltle black mesh gstring .    Mine took for every to arrive.  I fianlly Emailed Dore to cancel the order.  A day latter she sent me an Email stating that she had be out of town and appolgized over and over again.  Got it the next day.  Was worth the wait.  As a person that prefers to run,sleep, swim and generally live in the nude this is the next best thing to being nude.  I have not been in flordia recentlly but I can not imagine you haveing any trouble wearing one there.  I know I would not hesitate to wear mine on any beach.  I would not however wear the little yellow gstring in the US as it is completley see thru when wet, and now since it is well worn is even see thru to a great extent when dry.  I do wear it here in the French west indies and have not had any negative reactions.  However here nobody cares what you wear as long as you have on something.  As this just barely qulifies as something. 

gstring1,
Were you wearing the strapless pouch, or a regular G-string when you were talking to the ranger? The material is specifically called "black mesh"?

I knew somebody who used to wear a flap & string out to Ft Desoto right in front of rangers and the Sheriff with no problem. The only problem is, he can't wear it if it's too windy.

Even though G-strings are legal here, I am still uncomfortable wearing one in front of families with little kids, or teenagers. Problem is, they're so damn many of them at Ft Desoto, they're unavoidable. I have heard some high school kids crack up laughing after I walk by and they see me from the rear. I just grit my teeth, ignore it and keep on walking fast to get out of eyeshot. I like to steer clear of the macho-looking, age 18 to 23 males, because some are very homophobic and may take great offense to seeing a man in anything skimpier than surfing trunks.
Fred

I think I know where you're talking about. There's a new pass there, formed by storms. You have to wade past some mangrove trees or cut through them on a path. I don't think the ranger can even drive their trucks in there, not that that even matters, since I'm not planning on breaking the law, but at least one doesn't have to feel they have rangers breathing down their necks or worry about getting accidently run over. Yes that has happened a few times and I think one tourist died.

If you say the Dore mesh pouch allows tan-through, that would be the next best thing to going nude. I hate tan lines.
Fred

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gstring1,Were you wearing the strapless pouch, or a regular G-string when you were talking to the ranger? The material is specifically called "black mesh"?I knew somebody who used to wear a flap & string out to Ft Desoto right in front of rangers and the Sheriff with no problem. The only problem is, he can't wear it if it's too windy.Even though G-strings are legalhere, I am still uncomfortable wearing onein front of families with little kids, orteenagers. Problem is, they're so damn many of them at Ft Desoto, they're unavoidable. I have heard somehigh school kids crack up laughing after I walk by and they see me from the rear. I just grit my teeth, ignore it and keep on walking fast to get out of eyeshot. Iliketosteer clear of themacho-looking,age 18 to 23males, because some are very ho

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