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| BorisVI | #201 |
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Re:St Martin (St.Maarten) & Orient Beach Date Posted:12/10/2013 05:17:58Copy HTML Headed to St. Martin at the end of January but will not be staying on Orient Beach. I was curious if anyone had any experiences with the western side (Baie Longue) of St. Martin. I understand that it is more isolated.
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| Idunk2 | #202 |
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Re:St Martin (St.Maarten) & Orient Beach Date Posted:12/11/2013 10:50:23Copy HTML I would say that you would not have any trouble in a thong on any beach in SXM. I have worn thongs on a lot of different beaches and have seen many others doing so as well without issues. It is me of the many things that keep me coming back to SXM year after year.
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| oosuntanman | #203 |
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Re:St Martin (St.Maarten) & Orient Beach Date Posted:01/09/2014 08:43:33Copy HTML wife and I have been going to sxm for 20 plus years.Nudity was more open several years ago.We much prefer the quiet French lowland[west side ] beaches.we still can be nude on those beaches but have to be discrete.Orient[in winter] is full of fat cruiseship people.we really dislike it.We go to sxm for 2 or 3 weeks most winters and rarely go to orient.we wear micro strings at the most.nude at other times.chat and share pix at oosuntanman@yahoo.com
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| Speedster78 | #204 |
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Re:St Martin (St.Maarten) & Orient Beach Date Posted:01/12/2014 05:13:11Copy HTML Anyone going to be thonging in St. Maarten between Feb 6-15. I'm gonna be at Orient beach and it would be cool to hang out with other thongers.
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| oosuntanman | #205 |
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Re:St Martin (St.Maarten) & Orient Beach Date Posted:01/21/2014 06:07:34Copy HTML we will be in sxm feb 3 -15.we rarely go to orient beach.just too many fat asses.we hit the west side frencg beaches for discrete nudity and micro g strings...
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| Thongsc | #206 |
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Re:St Martin (St.Maarten) & Orient Beach Date Posted:01/21/2014 11:37:55Copy HTML "just too many fat asses."? I've seen the pics... Good to know you have perfect bodies, in your mind...
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| Speedster78 | #207 |
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Re:St Martin (St.Maarten) & Orient Beach Date Posted:01/22/2014 02:30:21Copy HTML Well, I'm not looking to judge, just to enjoy my time in the sun. Anyone else going to be in SXM Feb 6-14?
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| sxmthonger | #208 |
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Re:St Martin (St.Maarten) & Orient Beach Date Posted:01/23/2014 01:24:05Copy HTML I actually like the fact that there is a variety of bodies on Orient Beach. It serves as a reminder that being nude or nearly nude on a beautiful beach is more about comfort and freedom than about trying to be sexy or look up.
That being said, Speedster78, I wish I were going to be there in February and could hang with you! Enjoy your trip, and please give us a full report of your thong sightings. |
| wearsthongs | #209 |
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Re:St Martin (St.Maarten) & Orient Beach Date Posted:02/02/2014 05:58:07Copy HTML Just booked a week at La Plantation for may. Ended up only about $1000 per person airfare included. Can anyone give any advice on best way to get from the airport? It looks like the hotel is close to the airport - taking a cab is easy and cheap enough?
Also, anyone ever been there in May that could speak to what I'm in for in terms of the crowd? Which bar has the cheapest beers? Fun activities to do on the island besides thonging? |
| Captain_Jim | #210 |
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Re:St Martin (St.Maarten) & Orient Beach Date Posted:02/02/2014 07:28:04Copy HTML I believe La Plantation is on the French side near the Esmeralda....no where near the airport. The main airport is on the Dutch side. There is a very small airport on the French side but you wouldn't fly into there unless you were coming form another island like St. Barts.
Taxi from the airport over to the Orient Beach area is about $18 |
| wearsthongs | #211 |
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Re:St Martin (St.Maarten) & Orient Beach Date Posted:02/02/2014 11:58:17Copy HTML Thanks for the information on the taxi. I am also curious, when exploring the beaches around the island, I hear a rental car is usually the best way to go. Is parking ever an issue?
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| T_for_2 | #212 |
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Re:St Martin (St.Maarten) & Orient Beach Date Posted:02/03/2014 01:40:28Copy HTML Parking generally is not an issue at the various beaches but parking sometimes can be tight in the major business areas of Marigot, Phillipsburg, and Grande Case. Although a rental car is not absolutely necessary, it would be a good option if you wish to explore various parts of the island.A little advise in respect to rental cars:NEVER leave anything in the car that you would not want to have stolen. Although other crimes against tourists are very rare, car break-ins occur frequently. Some (but not all) rental agents actually recommend that you do not lock the vehicle so as to avoid having locks damaged during break-ins. You should check with the agent about this when you rent the car,Secondly, NEVER drive after you have consumed liquor, even just a small amount. The French side Gendarmes regularly conduct roadside sobriety checks, and the acceptable blood alcohol level is MUCH lower than in the U.S. Be aware that these checks often are done during the daytime as well as late at night.Other than that, I am sure you will have a great time on St. Martin and I am envious of you.
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| rickl454 | #213 |
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Re:St Martin (St.Maarten) & Orient Beach Date Posted:02/03/2014 07:16:06Copy HTML wearsthongs - I'd go with the taxi from the airport to La Plantation. If you do rent a car T_for_2 is absolutely right about the gendarmes and leaving the car unlocked. La Plantation is located in the Village at Orient Beach and if you are a first time visitor you might want to forgo visits to any of the island's other beaches. Once on Orient Beach you will get hit by something called "sand gravity" - that will pretty much determine what you see or don't bother with for the rest of your trip. Don't worry it's a good thing.
I haven't been to the Village for a few years but there isn't much of a reason to leave once you arrive - maybe an afternoon in Phillipsburg but you can always catch a taxi - behind Pedro's any time of the day. I am pretty sure a one way trip is $18 and it is much easier than renting a car. We've always gone in May and for us it's the right time, actually any time is the right time on SXM. Once on the actual beach hang a left for the beachside restaurants, nude beach and cheap beer. Carib is the beer of St. Martin, if you forget that there are a million signs all over the place to help you remember. Check out Sexy Fruits for thongs and Adam & Eve for jewelry (or the other way around). By the way $1000 for a week on Orient Beach is a steal. If you need any more information PM me or post something. In the meantime check out this website: http://www.orientbeach.com/ Best wishes for a great trip. |
| Captain_Jim | #214 |
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Re:St Martin (St.Maarten) & Orient Beach Date Posted:02/03/2014 07:57:41Copy HTML rickl454....wouldn't you hang a right to go to Club Orient & the nude beach? Nudity is no longer tolerated on any other section of Orient Beach (except Coco Beach) and that's enough for a whole other post.
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| rickl454 | #215 |
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Re:St Martin (St.Maarten) & Orient Beach Date Posted:02/03/2014 11:28:13Copy HTML Cap - you're right. I guess it must be because we always stay at Club Orient and everything is to the left of that. Sounds plausible to me. At any rate, thank you for the correction. Wearsthongs - don't forget if Willi is tending bar at the Perch be sure to order an "Allover Tan" but watch out for her Rum Punch they are really potent. If I ever see you down there, Cap, I owe you one.
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| wearsthongs | #216 |
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Re:St Martin (St.Maarten) & Orient Beach Date Posted:02/04/2014 05:04:12Copy HTML Thanks for the information guys, wonderfully helpful. I'll probably end up renting a car because I am an explorer by heart. Although I very much look forward to wearing some skimpy attire on orient beach, I hope to check out at least 5 other beaches while I'm there, take some surfing lessons, and find a place to go for a nice hike. Petites Cayes looks especially interesting, if anyone has ever made the trek out to that beach I'd love to hear your story.
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| Captain_Jim | #217 |
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Re:St Martin (St.Maarten) & Orient Beach Date Posted:02/04/2014 01:04:39Copy HTML rickl454 is right...Willi's rum punches will knock you on your bare butt....but they are great !!!! Go to the Perch for happy hour
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| wearsthongs | #218 |
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Re:St Martin (St.Maarten) & Orient Beach Date Posted:02/05/2014 01:19:44Copy HTML Can anyone comment what the surf is like on orient beach? Are there waves (of any size)? How much does the beach change during high and low tide?
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| rickl454 | #219 |
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Re:St Martin (St.Maarten) & Orient Beach Date Posted:02/05/2014 02:29:45Copy HTML There is no surf to speak of. Orient is protected by a reef for about half of its length - check out Google Earth to see what I mean. There is a little on the northern end but not much. Certainly not surfable. You are better out renting a Hobie Cat, sailboard or kayak and paddle out to Cay Verte, a small island about 600 yards from Orient Water Sports at the south end of Orient Beach. It's an ideal place to run amok, naked and unafraid, with your significant other. Just bring plenty of water and a couple of XXXL white t-shirts each, you will need them for sun protection.
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| T_for_2 | #220 |
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Re:St Martin (St.Maarten) & Orient Beach Date Posted:02/06/2014 02:51:30Copy HTML Unless there is a significant storm, there is only a minimal difference between high and low tide on St. Martin. In fact, the difference is so small that it usually is difficult to tell whether the tide is high or low.
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| BEACHBOY7733 | #221 |
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Re:St Martin (St.Maarten) & Orient Beach Date Posted:02/06/2014 08:30:48Copy HTML We spent 4 days at Club Orient and never left the resort, didn't have a reason to leave! and we could have packed in a carry on bag, no need for clothes!
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| rickl454 | #222 |
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Re:St Martin (St.Maarten) & Orient Beach Date Posted:02/07/2014 03:38:05Copy HTML I think our record at Club Orient is something like eight straight days naked - not counting trips to the beachside restaurant area wearing a G-string or transparent half-pareo (under our rules that doesn't count). A carry-on is a good way to go for some but we always take a substantial piece of checked baggage. Not to take stuff there but to fill with bottles of MaDouDou and Rum Jumbie for the trip back. That was a record as well, 12 bottles of MaDouDou and three of Rum Jumbie.
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| gstring2 | #223 |
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Re:St Martin (St.Maarten) & Orient Beach Date Posted:02/25/2014 05:21:48Copy HTML Will be going to St.Maarten next month will be staying at the Westin hotel on Dawn Beeach. Is it all right to wear a gstring there at the pool and on the beech??
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| underwater | #224 |
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Re:St Martin (St.Maarten) & Orient Beach Date Posted:02/25/2014 10:43:02Copy HTML When we go to St Marten we stay at the Oyster Bay Resort which is also on Dawn Beach. I've never worn anything other than very skimpy thongs or g strings at the pool or on the beach.
Have a GREAT time!!! |
| Beached_Santa_Cruz | #225 |
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Re:St Martin (St.Maarten) & Orient Beach Date Posted:02/28/2014 03:48:01Copy HTML I'm going in November. I bought two of the smallest Skinzwear g's for it. Will only be there for 4 days though. My brother has a timeshare in St. Thomas where I'll have to wear my boardshorts for a week...
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| underwater | #226 |
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Re:St Martin (St.Maarten) & Orient Beach Date Posted:03/03/2014 04:53:59Copy HTML While nudity is illegal in St Thomas, I spent an entire day at Megans beach in a thong several years ago with no problems at all. The overall reaction was positive with many people smiling and I had several comments on my choice of swimwear.
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| pikeman | #227 |
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Re:St Martin (St.Maarten) & Orient Beach Date Posted:03/03/2014 06:01:21Copy HTML So on St. Martin a string is adequate where nudity isn't allowed?
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| pikeman | #228 |
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Re:St Martin (St.Maarten) & Orient Beach Date Posted:03/03/2014 06:04:09Copy HTML I wore a skinz skinny-side rio in one of those fabrics that gets somewhat transparent when wet with no issues. Walked up and down, swam, the whole routine. Nobody cared - it was great.
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| islandguy | #229 |
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Re:St Martin (St.Maarten) & Orient Beach Date Posted:03/03/2014 08:41:45Copy HTML My wife and I are considering a trip to St Martin. This would be our first trip there. We’re looking at renting a naturist-friendly villa (http://www.st-martin-vacation.com/Naturist-Friendly.html) near a clothing-optional beach. Does anyone have any experience doing this? Any specific suggestions or recommendations?
On another note, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recently issued a warning about a serious mosquito-borne disease that has been infecting people on St Martin (http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/notices/watch/chikungunya-saint-martin). It's a viral disease that causes fever, joint pain, and potentially other complications. A report from Vaccine News Daily references 1,780 suspected cases on St Martin documented by the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control (http://vaccinenewsdaily.com/medical_countermeasures/329945-more-than-5900-cases-of-chikungunya-in-caribbean-south-america/). Can anyone who’s been there recently provide any first-hand information? I want to do a risk assessment. We’re hoping to have a care-free vacation in a tropical paradise, but it appears as though the care-free aspect might not be achievable. |
| underwater | #230 |
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Re:St Martin (St.Maarten) & Orient Beach Date Posted:03/04/2014 05:30:48Copy HTML We were in St Marten a total of 5 weeks last year and I wore a thong or string anywhere nudity wasn't allowed without issue.
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| String_guy | #231 |
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Re:St Martin (St.Maarten) & Orient Beach Date Posted:03/05/2014 11:18:47Copy HTML Why would anyone want to nude sunbathe in private? Sex on the beach would be the only reason.
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| BorisVI | #232 |
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Re:St Martin (St.Maarten) & Orient Beach Date Posted:03/06/2014 07:18:08Copy HTML Back from my 10 day trip to Dutch side St. Maarten with a report. First I have to say there are aspects of St. Maarten that made my trip easier. English is spoken everywhere by everyone. US currency was accepted everywhere I went. I rented a car with no issues and the airport was one of the easiest to negotiate I've ever encountered. On the down side, the traffic is very congested particularly in the afternoon. The quality of the beaches and the water were poor in comparison to other Caribbean islands. As most of the beaches are bays and have boats more or less permanently anchored in them, the pollution is apparent with an unpleasant film and lack of clarity in the water. Of the 'baies" I visited Simpson Bay was the worst and Baie Longue and Baie Rouge only slightly better, rocky beaches with water not as clear as expected. Weather was terrific during my stay 1/27 to 2/6 with the occasional brief shower. No one seemed at all concerned about the viral outbreak that was in the news prior to my arrival.
The beach attire at Simpson Bay was conservative with the rare rio back on women and maybe 10% of men in speedos. The crowd was definitely older and comprised of seasoned St Maarten vacationers. Baie Rouge was a surprise. It had a mix of locals and vacationers who had driven to the location as there is plenty of parking at the western end of the beach and with seemingly no hotels nearby. The vacationers were an interesting mix that included several thonging women in the same small group. They had set up a picnic area right next to the only restaurant in the area and were getting lots of attention. Heading east from the parking area there were an unusually high percentage (>50%) of solo sunbathers in speedos. The number of women dropped way off as I headed east. Familes all congregated around that one restaurant at the parking area. While I was there no one went into the water. Baie Longue was virtually deserted when I went there late in the afternoon. It looked beautiful but on closer inspection had some of the most treacherous looking rocks just below the waterline. Overall I think St. Maarten is a safe choice for weather, not a great choice for quality beaches. It's an area where you can thong without issue but don't expect the company of fellow thongers. |
| Idunk2 | #233 |
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Re:St Martin (St.Maarten) & Orient Beach Date Posted:03/07/2014 05:16:24Copy HTML We have been going to St Martin for the last ten years. We do not even visit the beaches you mentioned. There are much better beaches on the island. Cupecoy, Happy Bay, Petite Cay, and Orient are much better choices for beaches. There are 37 beaches on the island and it appears you chose the beaches we dislike the most. We see thong or nude use of the beaches every time we go.
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| T_for_2 | #234 |
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Re:St Martin (St.Maarten) & Orient Beach Date Posted:03/08/2014 01:24:08Copy HTML The Dutch and French sides of the island are VERY different with the Dutch side feeling very much like being in U.S. Although we have made quite a few visits to St. Martin, I must admit that we have never gone to any of the Dutch side beaches so I really can not comment on those you specifically mentioned. If you ever travel to St. Martin again, I highly recommend that you stay on (or at least go to) the French side where there are some really fantastic beaches. Other than seaweed from time to time, there you will find absolutely no pollution and few if any boats. As on the Dutch side, US currency is accepted everywhere and English is spoken or understood by virtually everyone. Regarding the beach being almost deserted in the late afternoon, this is pretty typical of all beaches on St. Martin, probably due to the fact that darkness falls by about 6:00 PM all year round. Although there may be a few stragglers here and there, most people seem to pack up around 3 -4 pm or so and head back to where they are staying.
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| Eyowell1968 | #235 |
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Re:St Martin (St.Maarten) & Orient Beach Date Posted:04/24/2014 02:54:33Copy HTML I'll be there in the second half of July and it will be my first time as a public thonger. I'd like to know if I can buy male attires there, where and what kind are available. I like skinzwear models, is not easy for me to buy them although not imposible (I live overseas). Should I consider to buy my thongs in advance or is it possible to get them there?Thanks in advance.
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| 7423080 | #236 |
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Re:St Martin (St.Maarten) & Orient Beach Date Posted:04/24/2014 02:57:21Copy HTML The only place on the island I found thongs was at Luis's hut on orient beach near pedros bbq. He will make you what everyou like and have it ready the next day. If your looking for something really sexy or risque, order online is your best bet
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| Captain_Jim | #237 |
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Re:St Martin (St.Maarten) & Orient Beach Date Posted:04/24/2014 03:35:47Copy HTML Adam & Eve on Orient Beach
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| butterball21044 | #238 |
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Re:St Martin (St.Maarten) & Orient Beach Date Posted:04/24/2014 02:52:24Copy HTML Does Luiz sell on-line? If you're on a cruise, impossible to pick up the next day.
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| sxmthonger | #239 |
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Re:St Martin (St.Maarten) & Orient Beach Date Posted:04/25/2014 12:14:39Copy HTML I think Adam and Eve is VERY overpriced! I have never been to Luiz's shop, but I've heard he has a few "ready to wear" items available for sale for those who can't return the next day for pick-up.
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| rickl454 | #240 |
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Re:St Martin (St.Maarten) & Orient Beach Date Posted:04/25/2014 12:12:48Copy HTML Personally I've always brought G-strings from home to wear on Orient Beach. I don't think Luiz has an active website although I believe his wife is an IT person. He does sell off the rack but it's hit or miss. It is definitely worth the short walk to his hut if only to meet him - he is a really nice guy. Prices for Luiz and Adam & Eve are higher than Dore but that doesn't mean you shouldn't still look.
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| Eyowell1968 | #241 |
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Re:St Martin (St.Maarten) & Orient Beach Date Posted:04/28/2014 03:00:45Copy HTML thank you all for your quick answers.
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| wearsthongs | #242 |
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Re:St Martin (St.Maarten) & Orient Beach Date Posted:05/22/2014 10:09:33Copy HTML Just spent 8 days on orient beach in st. martin. May is definitely a great time to visit if you want to avoid the crowds. At orient beach there were available chairs at all sections of the beach all days we were there and no cruise ships docked in phillipsburg during our visit. There were lots of women topless and in thongs. For men, I would say maybe 15-20% in swim briefs, no thongs. I think most of the would be thong wearers were older and just went nude in the clothing optional section. I did not thong at orient beach but I was wearing very brief bikinis. No chuckles what so ever, but got checked out a fair bit (I am very muscular and lean). Didn't really have any interest in the clothing optional section, it was all 50+ folks and mostly men. Not fun for a 30 something to enjoy looks from young ladies.
Happy bay would be my recommendation for thonging. I wore a thong and very skimpy gstring there. There were always a few couples sunbathing nude and some of them were actually attractive (shocker). The water was calmer here too, great for swimming and snorkeling. At any given time, there was never any more than 10-15 people on this beach. Highly recommended. Petite cayes - pretty cool but prefer happy bay. The beach is very narrow and the water is rough. Nice hike though. We drove through the dutch side but didn't hang out there. The dutch side was touristy and lame. |
| Eyowell1968 | #243 |
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Re:St Martin (St.Maarten) & Orient Beach Date Posted:08/01/2014 12:14:36Copy HTML Reporting St. Maartin:
I must admit that I had prior experience with this place, so I can't say how crowded or no crowded was the island. I'm just stepping out the plane that brought me back home after 7 days in Simpson Bay. The beaches were clean and looked very safe, but a little eroded. Despite the fact that the dutch side is more "american" and the french side is more "european", female thongers and topless were very popular in both sides. Male thongers were exiguous, I only saw two: a young man rather plump (with all due respect) and this server. This other man that I saw was in Mullet Bay, the dutch side; in my case I thonged in Orient Beach (clothes optional side, I was the only male thonger) and in Cupecoy beach (dutch side again). Happy Bay, Freiar's bay and all others, although very beautiful and more preserved (little or no erosion), were populated enough, even very early, to consider a private or isolated thonging unadvisable. Dorkshorts were everywhere and looked as the "mandatory" male attire, speedos or similar were very rare; I wore speedos where thongs looked inapropiate. Cupecoy beach has a special fame on its own: a gay beach-straight friendly, and as the only beach on the dutch side where nudity was tolerated (but not totally legal I think); maybe because of that, it was by far the least crowded of all I visited; in one oportunity were three couples, one female and two male; women went nude, male dorkshorts or nude; again I standed as the only thonger. In my second visit to Cupecoy I was the only soul around. Why didn't I go nude in Orient beach's nude side and Cupecoy? Well, I wanted my tanlines. The selected instruments were two Jovana bikinis with extra narrow backsides that behaved as thongs... as expected. Sexy Fruits and Adam & Eve were open and selling thongs. All by now. Greetings to all. |
| luvmyrio | #244 |
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Re:St Martin (St.Maarten) & Orient Beach Date Posted:11/19/2014 12:43:01Copy HTML I'm thinking of going to the French side of St Martin during the first week of January and had a couple of questions I was hoping some of you could help me with. First, of all is "Orient Bay" the same thing as "Orient Beach," because Orient Beach is where I would like to stay. Second, how far are the Palm Court, La Plantation and Esmeralda Hotels from Orient Beach. And, finally, have any of you stayed at these hotels and how would you rate them? Thanks!
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| Captain_Jim | #245 |
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Re:St Martin (St.Maarten) & Orient Beach Date Posted:11/19/2014 01:35:47Copy HTML LaPlantation is not on the beach but it is just across the street. Esmeralda is right on Orient Beach & has clothing optional pools. However it is one of the farthest away from Club Orient (the nude section of Orient Beach).
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| rickl454 | #246 |
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Re:St Martin (St.Maarten) & Orient Beach Date Posted:11/19/2014 01:38:47Copy HTML Orient Beach is on Orient Bay. They are one in the same. Immediately behind the central part of Orient Beach is Orient Village, a complex of hotels, restaurants and shops all of relatively recent construction. The three hotels you mention are all located in Orient Village, about a five minute walk (more or less) from Orient Beach. We always stay at Club Orient but have known people who have stayed at the three mentioned - we've never anything negative about any of them. Check out Orient Beach on Google Earth to get a good grasp of the relevant geography.
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| Captain_Jim | #247 |
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Re:St Martin (St.Maarten) & Orient Beach Date Posted:11/19/2014 04:59:05Copy HTML Sorry but Esmeralda & La Plantation are way down the beach from Orient Village. That is the area where Tap 5 and the other stores are.
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| luvmyrio | #248 |
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Re:St Martin (St.Maarten) & Orient Beach Date Posted:11/19/2014 10:29:52Copy HTML Great, thanks for all of your help. What would you say are the nicest hotels on Orient Beach?
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| T_for_2 | #249 |
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Re:St Martin (St.Maarten) & Orient Beach Date Posted:11/20/2014 09:15:28Copy HTML Here is a link to a great panoramic photo of Orient Beach. Although the proto is old (2005) and there have been some changes, it should give you a general idea of where things are. Hope it helps.
http://edsandra.com/photos2005/LargeOrientPanorama.htm |
| SteveandCandy | #250 |
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Re:St Martin (St.Maarten) & Orient Beach Date Posted:11/21/2014 11:34:57Copy HTML We spent a day on Orient Beach last month, Steve and not been there since 2006 and it was Candy's first time in St Maarten. Hurricane Gonzalo did quite a bit of damage all over the island and especially hurt the beach itself at Orient. They lost a lot of sand:( Not too much structural damage to the bars up and down the beach or to Club Orient, but there is no beach left in front of the parking area where the beach changes to nude, the water is right at the rocks. Tons of places to stay in the village but Club Orient would be a lot more fun:) We had a great time!
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